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Title: Obama: Stimulus plan could create, save up to 4 million jobs
Post by: Grandpa Shooter on January 10, 2009, 12:59:04 PM
By Paul Steinhauser
CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Barack Obama now says his plan to pump up the ailing economy could create or save 3 million to 4 million jobs, more than the 2.6 million jobs the government says were lost last year.

In his weekly radio and YouTube address, the president-elect gave details on a report released by his transition team. The report details the types of jobs that would be created or saved by Obama’s stimulus proposals, officially known as the “American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan.”

“The report confirms that our plan will likely save or create 3 to 4 million jobs. Ninety percent of these jobs will be created in the private sector — the remaining 10 percent are mainly public sector jobs we save, like the teachers, police officers, firefighters and others who provide vital services in our communities,” Obama said.



Something about this just really chaps my behind.  Due to govenment neglect, the economy goes in the tank, and now we have a "new" government official promising to undo what was done and give us our jobs back?  Huh! :mad:
Title: Re: Obama: Stimulus plan could create, save up to 4 million jobs
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on January 10, 2009, 10:20:05 PM
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Barack Obama now says his plan to pump up the ailing economy could create or save  3 million to 4 million jobs, more than the 2.6 million jobs the government says were lost last year.

That part there irks me.

The idea that a candidate can set such an amorphous goal as "saving jobs."  It cannot be measured.  Furthermore, "saving" a job just means that it's there next year.  There are, what, about 150 million working stiffs in America?  If there are 150 million next year, then Obama saved 150 million jobs, right?

He's lowered the bar for himself with his wording, but made himself out to sound like a great economic savior.

Also:  3-4 million jobs only reflects about 1-1.5% of the American population, even if these were created jobs rather than just saved ones.  Typical population growth rate for our country (births + immigration) runs around 3-4%.  Hence, joblessness increases with such low goals.
Title: Re: Obama: Stimulus plan could create, save up to 4 million jobs
Post by: Standing Wolf on January 10, 2009, 10:57:26 PM
The only job that individual cares about is his own.
Title: Re: Obama: Stimulus plan could create, save up to 4 million jobs
Post by: Myself on January 10, 2009, 11:53:28 PM
With 3-4 million new Jobs created does that equate to 4 Billion or so Apple II's and Macintosh's?
Title: Re: Obama: Stimulus plan could create, save up to 4 million jobs
Post by: Manedwolf on January 11, 2009, 04:31:44 PM
If the New Deal extended the Great Depression from about 2 years up until wartime production brought jobs, what will the New New Deal extend this one to? Two entire decades?
Title: Re: Obama: Stimulus plan could create, save up to 4 million jobs
Post by: makattak on January 12, 2009, 09:49:37 AM
If the New Deal extended the Great Depression from about 2 years up until wartime production brought jobs, what will the New New Deal extend this one to? Two entire decades?

Hey, on the plus side, those of us who DO keep our jobs will be fairly well off as the standard of living keeps dropping around us...

I mean, it's probably only going to be 25% unemployment. I've got a better than 3 in 4 chance I'll still be working.

Those aren't bad odds.

Oh, the country?

Um... well.... let's say it's not a 1 in 4 chance it will be doing well....
Title: Re: Obama: Stimulus plan could create, save up to 4 million jobs
Post by: HankB on January 12, 2009, 11:06:05 AM
Ummm . . . if government creates jobs through spending . . . what about the private sector jobs that won't exist, because the investment capital which pays for them has been taken by the .gov as taxes?
Title: Re: Obama: Stimulus plan could create, save up to 4 million jobs
Post by: Manedwolf on January 12, 2009, 11:15:33 AM
Hey, on the plus side, those of us who DO keep our jobs will be fairly well off as the standard of living keeps dropping around us...

I mean, it's probably only going to be 25% unemployment. I've got a better than 3 in 4 chance I'll still be working.

Those aren't bad odds.

Oh, the country?

Um... well.... let's say it's not a 1 in 4 chance it will be doing well....

Riding shotgun might not be a figure of speech, if it got that bad.
Title: Re: Obama: Stimulus plan could create, save up to 4 million jobs
Post by: makattak on January 12, 2009, 11:16:13 AM
Ummm . . . if government creates jobs through spending . . . what about the private sector jobs that won't exist, because the investment capital which pays for them has been taken by the .gov as taxes?


Hush! You aren't supposed to look beyond the immediate effects!

Stop thinking like an economist and get back in line!