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Title: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: T.O.M. on September 03, 2019, 02:05:24 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/09/03/business/walmart-ends-handgun-ammo-sales/index.html

Now, we all know there are few calibers that are truly handgun calibers, but that's what they're saying.  Not that Wal Mart near me sells much ammo worth buying. 
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Ben on September 03, 2019, 02:09:09 PM
Walmart is now apparently the NASCAR of big box stores.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: MillCreek on September 03, 2019, 02:19:16 PM
I, for one, am glad that I will be able to continue to buy 9 mm at WalMart for my Ruger carbine.  I am certain they will take my word for it.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: p12 on September 03, 2019, 02:33:54 PM
Screw Walmart.


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Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: MechAg94 on September 03, 2019, 02:41:28 PM
Does that mean they have put their handgun ammo on sale to get rid of it?  Sounds like probably no. 
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Ben on September 03, 2019, 05:42:52 PM
Also I guess no more .308 for sale?

Another article I saw said the CEO is "offering his compliance system for free to other retailers". Whatever that all means.

I also need to bone up on my Oregon CCW rules regarding printing. I didn't care about it until now, but an Oregon Walmart is my closest big box store, so  I guess I now have to worry about some store employee calling the cops if I bend over to get something from a low shelf and my gun peaks out.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: BobR on September 03, 2019, 06:11:23 PM
I also need to bone up on my Oregon CCW rules regarding printing. I didn't care about it until now, but an Oregon Walmart is my closest big box store, so  I guess I now have to worry about some store employee calling the cops if I bend over to get something from a low shelf and my gun peaks out.

Oregon is an open carry state so even if you show, who cares. ;)

Probably should look up and see if no gun signs carry the weight of the law. If not the worst is they can ask you to leave and then trespass you if you want to argue. 

I plan on honoring the Walmart request not to open carry in their stores the same way I honor the same request made by Starbucks and that is ignore it. If I am OC that day (which is probably 95% or more of the time)  then I will continue to OC while I am in the Walmart. If asked to leave I will, if not then of course all is good.

bob
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: kgbsquirrel on September 03, 2019, 06:44:04 PM
Also I guess no more .308 for sale?

Another article I saw said the CEO is "offering his compliance system for free to other retailers". Whatever that all means.

I also need to bone up on my Oregon CCW rules regarding printing. I didn't care about it until now, but an Oregon Walmart is my closest big box store, so  I guess I now have to worry about some store employee calling the cops if I bend over to get something from a low shelf and my gun peaks out.

Hmm, same.  Stuck behind enemy lines in Eugene.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Ben on September 03, 2019, 06:52:25 PM
Hmm, same.  Stuck behind enemy lines in Eugene.

Well, I'm in America, but I cross enemy lines for the no sales tax.  =D
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Northwoods on September 04, 2019, 01:16:19 AM
Hmm, same.  Stuck behind enemy lines in Eugene.

Next time I'm down there to visit the in-laws I'll let you know.  Maybe we can grab a coffee, or go target shooting for a couple hours.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: kgbsquirrel on September 04, 2019, 01:40:51 AM
Next time I'm down there to visit the in-laws I'll let you know.  Maybe we can grab a coffee, or go target shooting for a couple hours.

Fortunate that I just found a replacement shooting location in national forest land NW of Fernridge.  [ar15] =D

Depression has killed my volition to do anything so people dragging me along and forcing me to have fun against my will is pretty nice.  :lol:
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Regolith on September 04, 2019, 02:01:43 AM
Oregon is an open carry state so even if you show, who cares. ;)
bob

Yup. I'm on the wrong side of the Cascades, but even here I occasionally see people open-carrying in town. Probably wouldn't even draw a raised eyebrow in Eastern Oregon.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Ben on September 04, 2019, 08:50:15 AM
Yup. I'm on the wrong side of the Cascades, but even here I occasionally see people open-carrying in town. Probably wouldn't even draw a raised eyebrow in Eastern Oregon.

Yeah, I haven't worried about it up till now. When I OWB with an untucked tshirt in hot weather, half the time the tshirt rides up the holster and I end up OC'ing. Whether ID or OR, I don't care about it. Just wondering now if some new Walmart policy could potentially cause someone aggravation if that happens now in an Oregon Walmart. Not so much worried about the legality as I am with some overzealous employee getting the cops involved in a "man with a gun" kinda way vs just telling me to cover up or leave.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Pb on September 04, 2019, 09:14:31 AM
I hate walmart.

At least local gun stores will probably see an uptick in ammo sales.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: MechAg94 on September 04, 2019, 09:41:39 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/walmart-discontinues-sale-of-auto-parts-to-prevent-car-accidents
Walmart Discontinues Auto Part Sales To Prevent Car Accidents

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"We can no longer be complicit in an industry that kills over 3,000 people a day," said a spokesperson for Walmart. "Every time we sell a muffler, steering wheel cover, or flame decal, we are potentially causing the death of a person, and we cannot support that any longer."

"It's clear that bad drivers and poor road conditions don't cause vehicular deaths---cars do."


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"Our consciences will only be clean when we've been mercilessly beaten once for each of the millions of deaths that have been caused by automobiles since Walmart began selling auto parts," said one executive before solemnly beginning to beat himself with a baseball bat.
I guess this means they are serious.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Fly320s on September 04, 2019, 11:58:07 AM
https://babylonbee.com/news/walmart-discontinues-sale-of-auto-parts-to-prevent-car-accidents
Walmart Discontinues Auto Part Sales To Prevent Car Accidents

I guess this means they are serious.

Satire aside, Walmart could save more lives in one week by banning processed foods, fake foods, artificial sweetners, etc., than in 100 years of banning ammo.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: HankB on September 04, 2019, 01:02:01 PM
I'm old enough to remember when WalMart ads featured numerous "Made in U.S.A." products.

No more.

With elimination of some ammunition and EBR sales - items many of which are still Made in U.S.A. - this would seem to be another step in making WalMart a retailer of exclusively foreign made cr@p.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: castle key on September 04, 2019, 04:06:18 PM
If Walmart makes this choice, so be it. Private company....

As they are doing this in response to what they perceive to be a public safety issue, they should NOT discontinue the sales after running out, but rather simply stop sales and scrap the evil product. To continue the sales after they acknowledge the public safety impact is merely virtue signalling.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: RoadKingLarry on September 04, 2019, 04:38:06 PM
On rare occasions I might pick up a bottle of Hoppes or some paper targets a Wally world but I haven't bought ammo there in close to 10 years.
I prefer to take my business to local gun shops or the regional farm store (Atwoods).
Just one more reason not to shop there.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: BobR on September 04, 2019, 04:40:44 PM
I'm old enough to remember when WalMart ads featured numerous "Made in U.S.A." products.

No more.

With elimination of some ammunition and EBR sales - items many of which are still Made in U.S.A. - this would seem to be another step in making WalMart a retailer of exclusively foreign made cr@p.

I am old enough to remember that also, they really pushed their Made in the USA shtick for a while. Then it was, well we will sell made in USA if a US manufacturer can get within 5% of a foreign supplier. Then China became the supplier of choice for Walmart.

bob
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Pb on September 04, 2019, 05:29:50 PM
If Walmart makes this choice, so be it. Private company....


Unfortunately, walmart's executives are also blabbing about how the government needs to impose more gun control.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: MechAg94 on September 04, 2019, 05:37:21 PM
I bought some 9mm today.  They haven't stopped yet or put anything on sale. 

The Federal Syntech Defense HP ammo is pretty cheap.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: T.O.M. on September 04, 2019, 05:45:33 PM
Been in class all day, so haven't done any research, but I'm seeing headlines that say WalMart is also no longer selling ammunition for assault weapons ( ;/ ), and semi auto rifles.  Anyone else seeing this?
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Ben on September 04, 2019, 06:11:59 PM
Been in class all day, so haven't done any research, but I'm seeing headlines that say WalMart is also no longer selling ammunition for assault weapons ( ;/ ), and semi auto rifles.  Anyone else seeing this?

I just saw, "short barreled rifles" whatever that is. Of course don't Ruger and a few others make some sweet bolt action "mountain rifles" for hunting in 18" barrels? Also 1894 Trapper carbines.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: MikeB on September 04, 2019, 07:15:06 PM
Eh. I’ve been looking for an excuse to stop going to a very conveniently placed Wal-Mart for other reasons like the cheap Chinese products. They crossed the final line for me. For a few dollars a month more and about the same in price difference I can get everything I ever bought at that Wal-Mart elsewhere. I’m not a big Boycott person, but when reasons pile up I’m good with it.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: lee n. field on September 04, 2019, 07:15:51 PM
I'll go check the local ChinaMart when I get word that my renewed prescription is ready.  Tomorrow, probably.  We shall see.  Really, I seldom buy ammo at this point, except for the occasional box of social purposes stuff.   Range ammo is hand loads.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: T.O.M. on September 04, 2019, 07:32:08 PM
Tangent: I don't shop at WalMart.  Clientele sucks. Most of the employees suck.  Parking lot sucks (highest break in and hit/skip rates in the area.).

I've heard that they are able to do the lowest prices because they contract with the manufacturers for "special" models at lower prices. In trade, the manufacturers cut corners like shorter power cords, cheaper paint, etc.  A really good reason to stay away.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Cliffh on September 04, 2019, 07:35:29 PM
No handgun ammo, even if is/can be used in a rifle, and no more 5.56 or .223.  I haven't heard anything definite regarding .22lr, all replies to that question have been along the lines of "I don't know".

They're going to sell at the regular price until all the proscribed ammo is sold off, including what's in the supply chain and/or required to fulfill contracts.  

This morning the store manager told me "no open carry" will be allowed in the store - but only a salaried member of management can say anything to the customer.  IIRC, here in TX, it's a "Please leave" and trespass if you don't.  Oh well, concealed means concealed and what they don't know....

I mentioned that, personally, I don't think this whole fiasco is a good idea; she said that since yesterday she's found a lot of people feel the same way.  

Purely political grandstanding.

Over the last few months we'd started buying more of our groceries at a couple of other stores.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Cliffh on September 04, 2019, 07:41:00 PM
Tangent: I don't shop at WalMart.  Clientele sucks. Most of the employees suck.  Parking lot sucks (highest break in and hit/skip rates in the area.).

I've heard that they are able to do the lowest prices because they contract with the manufacturers for "special" models at lower prices. In trade, the manufacturers cut corners like shorter power cords, cheaper paint, etc.  A really good reason to stay away.

True.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: RoadKingLarry on September 04, 2019, 08:57:36 PM
Tangent: I don't shop at WalMart.  Clientele sucks. Most of the employees suck.  Parking lot sucks (highest break in and hit/skip rates in the area.).

I've heard that they are able to do the lowest prices because they contract with the manufacturers for "special" models at lower prices. In trade, the manufacturers cut corners like shorter power cords, cheaper paint, etc.  A really good reason to stay away.

I first saw that in action in 1993. I had a side gig as a security guard at the Zebco manufacturing plant in Tulsa. They had separate lines for product for Wal Mart. Plastic gears instead of metal, bushings instead of bearings and so on, but the outside shell looked just like the one you could buy at a proper sporting goods store.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: HankB on September 05, 2019, 12:33:15 PM
I've heard that they are able to do the lowest prices because they contract with the manufacturers for "special" models at lower prices. In trade, the manufacturers cut corners like shorter power cords, cheaper paint, etc.  A really good reason to stay away.
Not just WalMart - it happens with other large retailers too. I found that out over 30 years ago when a colleague compared a Stanley garage door opener purchased at Menards vs. one purchased elsewhere. The one from Menards had almost the same part number, but differences included plastic parts where the "standard" model used brass or steel.

Beware of consumer electronics sold at big box retailers that have a slightly different part number than what's listed at the manufacturer's web site.

Tangent: I don't shop at WalMart.  Clientele sucks

Oldie but goodie . . .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLc1ZRBfkvQ
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Regolith on September 05, 2019, 10:31:55 PM
Used to be I'd walk into a Walmart and find half a dozen things I wanted that weren't on my list. They were really good at getting impulse buys.

These days I'm lucky to find all the things I came to get in the first place, never mind the rest of the junk they're selling, because they're almost always out of stock. The stuff that would normally trigger an impulse buy is even crappier than it used to be if they even carry it anymore, and it often isn't even cheaper.

All of their USB-C stuff, for instance, is priced $3-$10 more than other brick and mortar stores in the area, let alone what you can find at Amazon or Monoprice. :facepalm:

Wal-Mart has been giving me less and less reason to shop for a while now. There are still a few things I can only reasonably get there, but I think for everything else, I'll be shopping elsewhere or online.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Cliffh on September 05, 2019, 11:01:55 PM
Used to be I'd walk into a Walmart and find half a dozen things I wanted that weren't on my list. They were really good at getting impulse buys.

These days I'm lucky to find all the things I came to get in the first place, never mind the rest of the junk they're selling, ....

They're bowing to the almighty dollar.

The new distribution/storage system sucks.  Stores can't order what they want/need, they get what the new inventory software says they're short on.  On-site storage has been cut to a minimum, there's very little stored behind the wall now-a-days.  That's why the taller shelving was installed (top stock), to store the part of a case that won't fit below.  No more keeping a couple of cases stored in the backroom.  If the on-hand counts are off on a product, (and they always are, one way or the other), the store's not going to receive what they need - or they'll have too much of something they don't need.  This is also why the stores are putting more product on display in the large alleyways - no place to store it. 

And, of course, money's why they're going more to the self checkout.  A machine costs a lot less than a cashier.  Around here the self checkouts will be empty while people are standing 4 and 5 deep at a register with a cashier.  Corporate doesn't see that though.  Attempts to write the corporate offices have resulted in the email being forwarded to the store one shopped at for resolution - great, except the store can't do anything about corporate policy.

Maybe the current policy makers aren't planning on the chain lasting too much longer.  "Who cares? we'll get ours now".
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: kgbsquirrel on September 05, 2019, 11:07:37 PM
... "Who cares? we'll get ours now".

That's exactly what is happening everywhere.  America is being liquidated.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: Ben on September 06, 2019, 08:42:18 AM
"Clarification" by Walmart. Interesting that they refused to answer the question on .308 and 12 gauge. Also, how many people shoot Valkyrie? I would never have guessed Walmart even stocks it.

https://freebeacon.com/issues/exclusive-walmart-partially-clarifies-statement-on-ending-certain-ammunition-sales/
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: MechAg94 on September 06, 2019, 09:29:34 AM
The only reason I would get ammo occasionally at our local Walmart is I could buy the ammo right there at the sporting goods counter and didn't have to wait in line up front.  Also, they would generally have the Winchester white box pistol ammo a dollar or two cheaper than others stores.  Since I have been buying bulk pistol ammo online the last couple years, I don't do that much anymore.  Also, Academy has been improving their pricing on ammo lately.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: JN01 on September 06, 2019, 05:02:23 PM
The Wal-marts around me haven't sold firearms for years.  I think part of the problem was keeping employees who could competently complete the FFL transactions.  I could see from a business perspective where selling them might be more hassle than it was worth.

I rarely bought ammo there as I didn't often have an hour or so to kill waiting for someone to come and open the security case just to get a brick of .22s.
Title: Re: Wal Mart ends sales of handgun ammunition
Post by: lee n. field on September 06, 2019, 06:59:39 PM
The Wal-marts around me haven't sold firearms for years.  I think part of the problem was keeping employees who could competently complete the FFL transactions.  I could see from a business perspective where selling them might be more hassle than it was worth.

I rarely bought ammo there as I didn't often have an hour or so to kill waiting for someone to come and open the security case just to get a brick of .22s.

Likewise, rarely bought ammo there, never a gun.

Outside of WM, there are 2 places in town that sell ammo.  The farm store, and the shoestring FFL/gunsmith I mostly deal with these days.