Author Topic: Atlas Shrugged, Enemies Foreign and Domestic, or Unintended Consquences? (Read 6901 times)

AZRedhawk44 · « **on:** March 27, 2009, 03:54:05 PM »

Which makes for better reading in the Jury Selection Room?

Got hit with Jury Duty. So, what should be my light reading that I tote along with me?

taurusowner · « **Reply #1 on:** March 27, 2009, 03:57:16 PM »

Are you trying to get booted from the jury?

I would pick Atlas Shrugged if you're really just looking to read a great book. One of the other two if you want the lawyers to show you the door.

Sawdust · « **Reply #2 on:** March 27, 2009, 03:57:59 PM »

EFD gets my vote. It's lighter fare; that is, the other two books I needed to concentrate more in order to follow and comprehend and I can't do that unless I am alone in a quiet place.

Plus, the title is pretty clear to a casual observer if that is the effect you're looking for...

HTH,

Sawdust

Werewolf · « **Reply #3 on:** March 27, 2009, 04:00:02 PM »

Depends:

Good book that will challenge, is intellectual and which can be terribly boring at times: Atlas Shrugged

Good book, fun to read, guns, action, etc: UC

OK book and you like conspiracy theories: EFAD

Fjolnirsson · « **Reply #4 on:** March 27, 2009, 04:31:06 PM »

I've only read UC and Atlas, so I'd go with one of those two, but whichever you choose, bookmark it with a pamphlet on Jury Nullification.

Antibubba · « **Reply #5 on:** March 27, 2009, 04:41:20 PM »

If you're a masochist, Atlas Shrugged is perfect.

RevDisk · « **Reply #6 on:** March 27, 2009, 04:41:56 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on March 27, 2009, 03:54:05 PM

Which makes for better reading in the Jury Selection Room?

Got hit with Jury Duty. So, what should be my light reading that I tote along with me?

I'd recommend Atlas Shrugged. Or UC if you remove the cover. Both are excellent books.

EFAD and its sequel.... I'm sorry, they're ok "light reading" if you agree with the author's political views and love conspiracy type novels, but classics they will never be.

AZRedhawk44 · « **Reply #7 on:** March 27, 2009, 04:46:15 PM »

Figure I'll try out Arizona's recent law requiring facilities that prohibit CCW to provide firearms storage lockers, too. Maricopa County Superior Court falls under that. I've got a few weeks to verify.

So: Open carry .44mag, nice Colt Commander to make the security guard drool, plasticwundernine XD9 as a babystompingbullethose, or 642 in the front pocket of my dockers as a casual "even nice looking guys carry" statement?

Also: Anyone know of some pro-freedom/pro-gun oriented polo shirts or button-down shirts I could wear? Heritage Foundation/Cato/NRA have any nice businesswear for casual dress?

AZRedhawk44 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 27, 2009, 04:46:55 PM »

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UC if you remove the cover.

That's not the point. The cover is part of UC.

Gewehr98 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 27, 2009, 05:10:02 PM »

If you bring your copy of Unintended Consequences to the jury selection process and show it to the attorneys present, you might get a break...

vaskidmark · « **Reply #10 on:** March 27, 2009, 05:16:13 PM »

PM me your address - I'll mail you a GUNS SAVE LIVES button (approx 3" across). Blaze orange background with black block upper case letters, or Kelly-ish green background.

For $6 (half price) I'll include a VCDL ballcap (blue with VCDL logo). and for $28 (member price) I'll get you a black or ash gray (whichever I can get my hands on) polo shirt with the VCDL logo on the left breast. (If I can find one with a pocket, I'll send that, otherwise you get just the embroidered logo.) see http://www.vcdl.org/static/store.html for photos of shirts.

Anybody else that wants stuff, same price except I'm gonna have to collect $1 for a button (I have a limited stock on hand for recruiting).

I'll cover postage out of pocket - it's worth it to get the message out.

stay safe.

skidmark

vaskidmark · « **Reply #11 on:** March 27, 2009, 05:23:01 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on March 27, 2009, 04:46:15 PM

Figure I'll try out Arizona's recent law requiring facilities that prohibit CCW to provide firearms storage lockers, too. Maricopa County Superior Court falls under that. I've got a few weeks to verify.

So: Open carry .44mag, nice Colt Commander to make the security guard drool, plasticwundernine XD9 as a babystompingbullethose, or 642 in the front pocket of my dockers as a casual "even nice looking guys carry" statement?

Also: Anyone know of some pro-freedom/pro-gun oriented polo shirts or button-down shirts I could wear? Heritage Foundation/Cato/NRA have any nice businesswear for casual dress?

Something openly carried, along with something in your pocket plus another on your ankle "just in case".

Had a nice young lady attend the last few Lobby Days at the Va General Assembly thus attired. (GA rules permit carry in the GA building & grounds of Capitol Square if you have a Concealed Handgun Permit. Getting in you show your CHP & breeze through the metal detectors beeping merrily, then see the nice Capitol Policeman who verifies you indeed have a current CHP. Lots of folks like to get asked what & where is it.) She was ever-afterwards known as 3-gun Kim.

stay safe.

skidmark.

Oh! My vote is for UC - get to the part where Henry disposes of stuff, turn to the person sitting next to ypu, show them the passage, and ask "Can you really do that?"

Scout26 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 27, 2009, 05:23:05 PM »

If it's anything like what I went through, you can read whatever you want in the jury pool room. Once you get called for Vior Dire any and all reading material must be left behind.

Bring whatever you want to read, the only people who will see it are your fellows jurors.

As far as what to wear, here are some suggestions from previous threads:

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A tastefully apointed FIJA t-shirt

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Barbara Adams

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a hangman noose tie

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the Grim Reaper

Maybe Mike can let you borrow his home-made lethal injection machine.......

PTK · « **Reply #13 on:** March 27, 2009, 05:53:57 PM »

How about you go, get on the jury, and do your best to simply nullify all verdicts? It's more fun.

lee n. field · « **Reply #14 on:** March 27, 2009, 06:57:19 PM »

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Anyone know of some pro-freedom/pro-gun oriented polo shirts or button-down shirts I could wear? Heritage Foundation/Cato/NRA have any nice businesswear for casual dress?

Just no Starfleet uniform.

Balog · « **Reply #15 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:40:04 PM »

Quote from: PTK on March 27, 2009, 05:53:57 PM

How about you go, get on the jury, and do your best to simply nullify all verdicts? It's more fun.

This^^

280plus · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2009, 07:55:40 PM »

I'm actually re-reading AS right now. Sorry to say but so far the word drivel comes to mind.

280plus · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2009, 08:05:29 PM »

Oops, my bad, I'm rereading "The Fountainhead", however, the word drivel still comes to mind.

Explain to me why a plumber has a torch on the job that is capable of cutting steel beams. Apparently Ayn doesn't know much about torches.

Bogie · « **Reply #18 on:** March 27, 2009, 08:13:55 PM »

A torch capable to cutting steel beams? When we did a rehab a while back, the plumber had an oxy-acetylene rig in his truck, along with propane and mapp gas stuff... If you need a hole for something, you need the hole. And sometimes it's something big.

Angel Eyes · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2009, 08:42:36 PM »

Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on March 27, 2009, 03:54:05 PM

Which makes for better reading in the Jury Selection Room?

Got hit with Jury Duty. So, what should be my light reading that I tote along with me?

Atlas Shrugged, while wearing a Wookie suit.

RevDisk · « **Reply #20 on:** March 27, 2009, 09:03:56 PM »

Quote from: 280plus on March 27, 2009, 07:55:40 PM

I'm actually re-reading AS right now. Sorry to say but so far the word drivel comes to mind.

You just don't understand. He's just plain awesome, and no one understands it!

!!!!!

Isn't that like, the bestest mostest awesome thing in the world!?!

Ok, I'll stop, I'm giving myself a headache. Fountainhead was drivel about a guy who was allegedly awesome and no one got it, FOR AN ENTIRE BOOK. AS is better, especially in the concepts department. Ah... how to put it kindly. Ayn was a bit much into the ubermenschen philosophy, at which I roll my eyes a bit. And long winded. But the concepts and most of the philosophy were really good. I just try to think of Fountain was a false start. Practice swing, you know? It doesn't really count.

MicroBalrog · « **Reply #21 on:** March 27, 2009, 09:07:03 PM »

A whole bunch of people in the book get Roarke, actually.

Headless Thompson Gunner · « **Reply #22 on:** March 27, 2009, 10:58:17 PM »

Ayn's books are the kinda thing that either resonate with you, or do nothing for you. I don't think she ever expected her writing to speak to everyone.

280plus · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2009, 07:33:17 AM »

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Fountainhead was drivel about a guy who was allegedly awesome and no one got it, FOR AN ENTIRE BOOK.

695 PAGES of an entire book!

AS is even longer isn't it? I used to have a copy but it seems to have disappeared. I think I lost a box of books in a move many years ago. There's a few other titles I can't find anymore. One totally rare and unfindable.

280plus · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2009, 08:23:42 AM »

All I know for sure is if Roark was a character in a Hardy novel he'd end up dead by the end.

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Author Topic: Atlas Shrugged, Enemies Foreign and Domestic, or Unintended Consquences? (Read 6901 times)

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