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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #475 on: November 12, 2020, 10:13:57 PM »
Seems pretty weak. It's one thing to keep out the general public. It's another thing to say there's no way for a few family members to come in, with gloves and masks and such.

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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #476 on: November 13, 2020, 02:23:22 PM »
Everybody from that event is OK I hope.

Fall/winter is obviously the big flu season so I expect we'll be hearing more stories about gatherings where people pick it up.

The good news is we flattened the curve (and then some) and hospitals have figured out the best protocols for handling those who really get knocked down. Bad outcomes even among the high risk are going down.






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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #477 on: November 13, 2020, 02:36:17 PM »
Neighbor across the street is positive, she's a teacher, her husband, also a teacher, I imagine will be positive eventually. Neighbor 2 doors down is positive, he works at a senior living complex, I imagine his whole household will be eventually.
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #478 on: November 15, 2020, 10:43:42 AM »
And one more.  Dad's lady friend emailed all of us this morn, to tell us that she got it.  Doesn't know where she picked it up, as she's following all the avoidance advice.  Sounds like she's doing well, all things considered.  She's, I think, 85-ish.  My Dad (90) sees her regularly.
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #479 on: November 15, 2020, 10:54:57 AM »
A couple of teammates at work tested positive, separate incidents not a common source of infection. We have a handful of folks out quarantined per our contact tracing protocols.

The fear around here (Chicago suburbs) is palpable, I almost want to slap some of the guys and tell them to stop acting like little girls.

The mass hysteria and neuroticism being propagated by the media is just ridiculous. 

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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #480 on: November 15, 2020, 11:36:48 AM »
The fear around here (Chicago suburbs) is palpable, I almost want to slap some of the guys and tell them to stop acting like little girls.

The mass hysteria and neuroticism being propagated by the media is just ridiculous.  

Tyrannical gynocracy run amok.

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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #481 on: November 21, 2020, 09:35:37 AM »
In the retail establishment I work in we have multiple folks out either through contact tracing or from testing positive with symptoms.

So far it runs its course, they come back to work, rinse and repeat, not unlike the flu.

Other than the PANIC! DOOM! DEATH! OMG! FEAR! FEAR! our staffing is like a bad flu year, maybe a little worse due to the contact tracing.

Do not be afraid.

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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #482 on: November 21, 2020, 11:13:11 AM »

Do not be afraid.



So what about the lasting heart and lung disease concerns even in asymptomatic infections of Covid?
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #483 on: November 21, 2020, 11:21:36 AM »
So what about the lasting heart and lung disease concerns even in asymptomatic infections of Covid?

What percentage of those who get infected develop "lasting heart and lung disease concerns"?

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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #484 on: November 21, 2020, 11:40:16 AM »
What percentage of those who get infected develop "lasting heart and lung disease concerns"?



Figuring this virus is about a year into discovery, that probably won't be know for several years or even decades.
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #485 on: November 21, 2020, 11:54:34 AM »
Figuring this virus is about a year into discovery, that probably won't be know for several years or even decades.

So nobody knows, got it.

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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #486 on: November 21, 2020, 11:56:00 AM »
So nobody knows, got it.



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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #487 on: November 21, 2020, 12:42:01 PM »
Anyone remember back when someone with Adam Schiff-like secret information and a self-professed very deep understanding of how Coronavirus impacts humans warned us that a significant COVID risk was dying bleeding from one’s eyes?

Any confirmation on that dire threat beyond reports of overproduction of tears and inflamed conjunctiva?

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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #488 on: November 21, 2020, 12:55:24 PM »
Figuring this virus is about a year into discovery, that probably won't be know for several years or even decades.

For some reason I get the impression that you would be happy with current restrictions and lock downs lasting that long, just to be sure everyone is safe.
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #489 on: November 21, 2020, 02:08:19 PM »
Anyone remember back when someone with Adam Schiff-like secret information and a self-professed very deep understanding of how Coronavirus impacts humans warned us that a significant COVID risk was dying bleeding from one’s eyes?

Any confirmation on that dire threat beyond reports of overproduction of tears and inflamed conjunctiva?

It was from friends who worked as doctors, nurses and admins at hospitals in Iowa. I do talk with more folks in real life than I do online. These hospital folks are/were under gag orders from their superiors, so why would I risk someone's income I grew up with or went to college with to placate someone I've never met?
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #490 on: November 21, 2020, 02:09:58 PM »
For some reason I get the impression that you would be happy with current restrictions and lock downs lasting that long, just to be sure everyone is safe.


Just the opposite, I want folks to take how serious it is now, wear the mask, stay home, wash hands, so the lockdowns will end. I'm a very social person and the lockdowns is not very good for my mental health.
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #491 on: November 21, 2020, 04:45:39 PM »
It was from friends who worked as doctors, nurses and admins at hospitals in Iowa. I do talk with more folks in real life than I do online. These hospital folks are/were under gag orders from their superiors, so why would I risk someone's income I grew up with or went to college with to placate someone I've never met?
No one wants your secret sources to have their incomes endangered.

Is that still a symptom they are concerned about?  Is there a reason that isn’t a symptom reported elsewhere?

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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #492 on: November 21, 2020, 04:54:28 PM »
It was from friends who worked as doctors, nurses and admins at hospitals in Iowa. I do talk with more folks in real life than I do online. These hospital folks are/were under gag orders from their superiors, so why would I risk someone's income I grew up with or went to college with to placate someone I've never met?
Apparently, it is either extremely rare or hospitals and doctors all over the country are keeping quiet about it for some reason.  Could easily be some other medical condition or due to the treatment given (or interaction of some type).  Without more information, you might as well say an alien burst from their chest.
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #493 on: November 21, 2020, 05:48:40 PM »
Just the opposite, I want folks to take how serious it is now, wear the mask, stay home, wash hands, so the lockdowns will end. I'm a very social person and the lockdowns is not very good for my mental health.

Wear masks, stay home, wash your hands is very good advice.  The lockdowns have very little to do with that.  The people issuing the lockdowns don't take them seriously, they just expect you to because they are better than you or something.
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #494 on: November 21, 2020, 06:42:45 PM »
Just the opposite, I want folks to take how serious it is now, wear the mask, stay home, wash hands, so the lockdowns will end. I'm a very social person and the lockdowns is not very good for my mental health.
As Bob said, the hygiene advice is good, but preventing personal infection won’t make the lockdowns end, and it is ridiculous to claim that.  Mass immunity either through immunization or sufficient infection/recovery is the only thing that will make the lockdowns end.

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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #495 on: November 21, 2020, 10:05:27 PM »
Just the opposite, I want folks to take how serious it is now, wear the mask, stay home, wash hands, so the lockdowns will end. I'm a very social person and the lockdowns is not very good for my mental health.


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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #496 on: November 22, 2020, 10:00:11 PM »



I played over 30 rounds of golf this season and hunted in 3 states so far, I wouldn't call me a caged bird.
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #497 on: November 22, 2020, 10:06:44 PM »
No one wants your secret sources to have their incomes endangered.

Is that still a symptom they are concerned about?  Is there a reason that isn’t a symptom reported elsewhere?

This came about when the meat packing plants in IA, MN and SD were having a Covid outbreak with their workforce. Might of been a strain that caused the immune system to go into overdrive and start eating the body, might of been ethnic, I'm not sure.

This is from a medical journal-https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3899649/

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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #498 on: November 22, 2020, 11:24:02 PM »
I played over 30 rounds of golf this season and hunted in 3 states so far, I wouldn't call me a caged bird.

You said you wanted people to stay home.
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Re: Personal impact of the Wuhan Virus
« Reply #499 on: November 22, 2020, 11:27:00 PM »
You said you wanted people to stay home.

Neither of those activities involve large groups of people.
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