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Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« on: October 26, 2009, 03:40:47 PM »
Well, when all else fails, keep the same crap in the bill but change the name. "Rebranding".

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_bi_ge/us_public_option_rebranding_3

Pelosi: Health care 'public option' needs new name
By MATT SEDENSKY, Associated Press Writer Matt Sedensky, Associated Press Writer 20 mins ago

SUNRISE, Fla. – A government-sponsored "public option" for health care lives, though it may be more attractive to skeptics if it goes by a different moniker, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said Monday.

In an appearance at a Florida senior center, the Democratic leader referred to the so-called public option as "the consumer option." Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., appeared by Pelosi's side and used the term "competitive option."

Both suggested new terminology might get them past any lingering doubts among the public — or consumers or competitors.

"You'll hear everyone say, 'There's got to be a better name for this,'" Pelosi said. "When people think of the public option, public is being misrepresented, that this is being paid for with their public dollars."

Pelosi said that was a misconception and that any taxpayer money used to start up the public option would be repaid. She also said such an option would ultimately drive down government health care costs.

The speaker said the "competitive option" idea emerged during her closed-door roundtable at the Sunrise Senior Center with advocates of seniors and others who work with older populations. Wasserman Schultz suggested the term might be here to stay.

"I think she's going to go up and test-drive it when she goes back to Washington," Wasserman Schultz said. "It might stick."

As for having the votes to pass such a measure, both women said a public option would survive. They wouldn't get into numbers of congressional supporters, but said it was simply a matter of picking which type of public option to pursue.
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 03:44:51 PM »
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Pelosi said that was a misconception and that any taxpayer money used to start up the public option would be repaid. She also said such an option would ultimately drive down government health care costs.

There's so much stupid in this sentence my head hurts.
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 03:45:46 PM »
Can we go to war with Eurasia, now?  Please?  It would be double-plus good...
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 04:08:05 PM »
They are simply taking a page out of the normal liberal progressive playbook.

Whether it is a carbon tax cap and trade, government spending stimulus, or any other myriad of rejected ideas, liberals progressives are CERTAIN that the problem is people don't understand what they want to do.

So they keep changing the name. Instead, the problem is people understand it and REJECT it. The liberals progessives cannot accept that.
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 06:11:59 PM »
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There's so much stupid in this sentence my head hurts.

As poorly written, it's two sentences, but don't worry about it: there's enough stupidity in them for a whole Marxist book.
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2009, 06:56:08 PM »
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Pelosi said that was a misconception and that any taxpayer money used to start up the public option would be repaid.
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2009, 07:01:01 PM »
Pelosi said. "When people think of the public option, public is being misrepresented, that this is being paid for with their public dollars."
How stupid does she think we are?

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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2009, 07:14:06 PM »
How stupid does she think we are?

She and her party control both houses of congress and the presidency, so she has ample evidence that enough of you* are the required amount of stupid.

* of course this means your countrymen, not anyone on this esteemed forum.

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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2009, 08:45:30 PM »
I suggest she offer to be the guinea pig for testing the "consumer option."
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2009, 09:17:49 PM »
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I suggest she offer to be the guinea pig for testing the "consumer option."

We can suggest such things; unfortunately, Congress has its own very special medical and dental plan.
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2009, 09:24:38 PM »
One of many things we need to insist on changing by incessant public protest.
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2009, 01:42:59 AM »
I suggest she offer to be the guinea pig for testing the "consumer option."

And I suggest she be the guinea pig for Maybelline's new line of toxic waste cosmetics, Toxique.  'Course that may not tell us much about how actual skin would react to the product...
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2009, 04:02:51 AM »
She and her party control both houses of congress and the presidency, so she has ample evidence that enough of you* are the required amount of stupid.

* of course this means your countrymen, not anyone on this esteemed forum.



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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009, 05:28:19 AM »
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Both suggested new terminology might get them past any lingering doubts among the public — or consumers or competitors.

That's certainly true - very little doubt now remains about the nature of Nanci Pelosi and her political allies.
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2009, 09:54:35 AM »
Why is Pelosi, a senator from California, in Florida at an old-folks home?  How is she representing California?
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 10:37:46 AM »
She and her party control both houses of congress and the presidency, so she has ample evidence that enough of you* are the required amount of stupid.

* of course this means your countrymen, not anyone on this esteemed forum.



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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2009, 07:48:31 PM »
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How stupid does she think we are?

There truly is no end to how stupid they think we are.  Their contempt knows no bounds...

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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2009, 11:35:29 AM »
More and more these people inhabit a world of their own.  At some point it will become untethered from The Rest of Us.
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Re: Pelosi -- "Just Change the Name"
« Reply #18 on: October 29, 2009, 11:39:51 AM »
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