Post by: gunsmith on August 10, 2008, 01:09:35 PM
choice for veep.
Iirc, Lieberman is for an AWB.
Do you folks know anything about his views on the 2a?
Post by: Waitone on August 10, 2008, 01:58:46 PM
Post by: Manedwolf on August 10, 2008, 02:04:10 PM
Post by: Standing Wolf on August 10, 2008, 02:53:23 PM
Post by: Gowen on August 10, 2008, 03:12:22 PM
Post by: HankB on August 10, 2008, 04:31:50 PM
Personally, I think picking Lieberman would make his taking a dive too obvious . . .
(Say - didn't Lieberman just team up with another RINO, John Warner, and push some kind of insane bill to raise energy prices with a government mandated cap-and-trade swindle?)
Post by: longeyes on August 10, 2008, 04:45:22 PM
In Israel.
You can count him as an anti-gunner when it comes to RKBA in America.
If McCain wants to alienate the conservatives who have been working overtime to convince themselves that he is the bolus that must be swallowed to hold back the plague all he has to do is embrace Lieberman as VP.
Post by: seeker_two on August 10, 2008, 04:48:04 PM
....and put Obama & the Dems in charge for four years....
...I think McCain is trying to do the same thing to the Republicans that Buchanan did with the Reform Party.....
Post by: MechAg94 on August 10, 2008, 05:09:21 PM
If it happened, I guess he would be the first person to run as VP for both primary parties.
Post by: De Selby on August 10, 2008, 06:13:49 PM
Post by: wmenorr67 on August 10, 2008, 07:59:26 PM
Post by: ilbob on August 11, 2008, 03:26:52 AM
The problem for McCain is that the pool of VP's is so poor that people are actually speculating whether or not it could be Lieberman.
that is a big problem. no candidates stand out. thats an amazing thing this close to the convention. one would think romney would be the obvious choice but I think he does not want it.
Post by: alex_trebek on August 11, 2008, 06:00:09 AM
The problem for McCain is that the pool of VP's is so poor that people are actually speculating whether or not it could be Lieberman.
that is a big problem. no candidates stand out. thats an amazing thing this close to the convention. one would think romney would be the obvious choice but I think he does not want it.I don't think Romney is as obvious a choice as he is being made out to be. He only did really well in Utah, Michigan, and possibly Massachusetts's. Also Romney had a hard time convincing Repubs that he is conservative, which a weak area both share. After hearing Pawlenty speak on Glenn Beck, I think he could help McCain. Personally I would certainly vote if Pawlenty was he his running mate, as he seems to be a traditional conservative.
I would feel a lot more comfortable with Pawlenty as a tie-breaking vote if he is true to his word. Also he is young (about the same age as Obama), which helps balance the age problem McCain has.
As noteworthy tidbit, John Edwards was relatively unknown IIRC, before Kerry picked him for a running mate.
Post by: seeker_two on August 11, 2008, 07:54:15 AM
Post by: xavier fremboe on August 11, 2008, 09:58:10 AM
McCain needs to pick someone that will shore up his conservative base. He still has not done that and without us, he loses.
Without him, we lose worse.
Post by: Manedwolf on August 11, 2008, 10:04:06 AM
Now the buzz seems to be for Tom Ridge.....McCain's inviting him to travel the campaign trail with him...
Tom "Duct Tape And Plastic Sheeting" Ridge? Uh. No.
Post by: ilbob on August 11, 2008, 10:17:02 AM
Now the buzz seems to be for Tom Ridge.....McCain's inviting him to travel the campaign trail with him...
Tom Ridge is going to have to live down the debacle with being unable to get the DHS off to a decent start. he had to have been the worst possible choice for the job, having no real experience in bureaucracy, and no experience dealing with bringing such a monster under control and keeping it there.Chertoff is no better. He is basically a lawyer and has no idea what it takes to run such a huge enterprise. I doubt he has had to run an organization of more than a few dozen his whole life.
Post by: Manedwolf on August 11, 2008, 10:19:17 AM
Now the buzz seems to be for Tom Ridge.....McCain's inviting him to travel the campaign trail with him...
Tom Ridge is going to have to live down the debacle with being unable to get the DHS off to a decent start. he had to have been the worst possible choice for the job, having no real experience in bureaucracy, and no experience dealing with bringing such a monster under control and keeping it there.Chertoff is no better. He is basically a lawyer and has no idea what it takes to run such a huge enterprise. I doubt he has had to run an organization of more than a few dozen his whole life.
After Tom Ridge caused Home Depot's sales of duct tape and sheeting to go off the charts, giving them massive profits, they gave him a seat on their board. He now gets a six-digit per annum from them.
That would NOT look good!
Post by: gunsmith on August 11, 2008, 12:34:41 PM
Post by: Balog on August 11, 2008, 12:37:00 PM
Now the buzz seems to be for Tom Ridge.....McCain's inviting him to travel the campaign trail with him...
Tom Ridge is going to have to live down the debacle with being unable to get the DHS off to a decent start. he had to have been the worst possible choice for the job, having no real experience in bureaucracy, and no experience dealing with bringing such a monster under control and keeping it there.Chertoff is no better. He is basically a lawyer and has no idea what it takes to run such a huge enterprise. I doubt he has had to run an organization of more than a few dozen his whole life.
After Tom Ridge caused Home Depot's sales of duct tape and sheeting to go off the charts, giving them massive profits, they gave him a seat on their board. He now gets a six-digit per annum from them.
That would NOT look good!
Really? You have a source for that? I can easily believe it, but if it's true that would seem to warrant investigation.
Post by: Perd Hapley on August 11, 2008, 12:55:51 PM
Manedwolf, I don't care what Home Depot's board does. I just can't get around this idea that everybody was out buying duct tape and plastic. Source?
Post by: longeyes on August 11, 2008, 02:43:11 PM
Hey, I have a lifetime supply of duct tape downstairs thanks to him. That's reason enough not to vote for a McCain-Ridge ticket.
Post by: Manedwolf on August 11, 2008, 04:07:43 PM
Now the buzz seems to be for Tom Ridge.....McCain's inviting him to travel the campaign trail with him...
Tom Ridge is going to have to live down the debacle with being unable to get the DHS off to a decent start. he had to have been the worst possible choice for the job, having no real experience in bureaucracy, and no experience dealing with bringing such a monster under control and keeping it there.Chertoff is no better. He is basically a lawyer and has no idea what it takes to run such a huge enterprise. I doubt he has had to run an organization of more than a few dozen his whole life.
After Tom Ridge caused Home Depot's sales of duct tape and sheeting to go off the charts, giving them massive profits, they gave him a seat on their board. He now gets a six-digit per annum from them.
That would NOT look good!
Really? You have a source for that? I can easily believe it, but if it's true that would seem to warrant investigation.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/tom-ridge-joins-home-depot/story.aspx?guid=%7B0BD5D3B5-1078-40FA-A3A7-827CCA2D0DB7%7D
http://ir.homedepot.com/ReleaseDetail.cfm?ReleaseID=156739
Post by: Manedwolf on August 11, 2008, 04:08:57 PM
From what I hear, Tom Ridge is pro-abortion. And that would kill McCain with a large chunk of conservatives.
Manedwolf, I don't care what Home Depot's board does. I just can't get around this idea that everybody was out buying duct tape and plastic. Source?
Manedwolf, I don't care what Home Depot's board does. I just can't get around this idea that everybody was out buying duct tape and plastic. Source?
You don't remember back in 2001 a couple months after 9/11, when Ridge came on and said that duct tape and plastic sheeting would protect you from a biological and chemical attack? People went CRAZY buying it up for a while.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on August 11, 2008, 04:21:30 PM
From what I hear, Tom Ridge is pro-abortion. And that would kill McCain with a large chunk of conservatives.
Manedwolf, I don't care what Home Depot's board does. I just can't get around this idea that everybody was out buying duct tape and plastic. Source?
Manedwolf, I don't care what Home Depot's board does. I just can't get around this idea that everybody was out buying duct tape and plastic. Source?
You don't remember back in 2001 a couple months after 9/11, when Ridge came on and said that duct tape and plastic sheeting would protect you from a biological and chemical attack? People went CRAZY buying it up for a while.
I remember it well. The very first thing I thought of when I read about Ridge being a possible choice was duct tape (both for the windows and to wrap my head with).
If he is chosen, they are gonna tear him apart on the Home Depot board thing. Unfreakingbelievable! (well no, not really
)
Post by: seeker_two on August 11, 2008, 05:10:31 PM
From what I hear, Tom Ridge is pro-abortion. And that would kill McCain with a large chunk of conservatives.
Manedwolf, I don't care what Home Depot's board does. I just can't get around this idea that everybody was out buying duct tape and plastic. Source?
Manedwolf, I don't care what Home Depot's board does. I just can't get around this idea that everybody was out buying duct tape and plastic. Source?
You don't remember back in 2001 a couple months after 9/11, when Ridge came on and said that duct tape and plastic sheeting would protect you from a biological and chemical attack? People went CRAZY buying it up for a while.
Well.....you also have to give Glenn Beck credit for the increased duct tape sales.....