Limbaugh: "The Baron of Bombast's"?

[seeker_two]

Why create martyrs when disinformation and the willingness of the sheeple to believe Big Lies works ever so much better as a mode of control. Rather than getting possibly uncontrolable revolution you get sheeple actually working 24X7 to forge & fasten their own chains thinking it will make them 'safer'.

Then why not forego the expense and secrecy required and just have the MSM convince everyone that a disaster happened that killed 3000+ people?.....

...I mean, after the Moon Landing production, that would be a piece of cake.... 

[Gewehr98]

I mean, after the Moon Landing production, that would be a piece of cake

That was a darned good movie.   

[grampster]

I like my pancakes made with cinnamon and raisins.

[Waitone]

I've imagined Williams' kitchen has a dented skillet hanging on the wall complete with bits of hair.  In any case his gift giving advice is without parallel.

[Jamisjockey]

Why are we talking about truther issues?  This thread is about a talk show host.  Unless someone is alleging that Limbaugh was in on the 9/11 attacks, why even bring it up?   


He was my favorite, until Mark Steyn came along.  But of course no one can match Williams for marital advice.   

Why create martyrs when disinformation and the willingness of the sheeple to believe Big Lies works ever so much better as a mode of control. Rather than getting possibly uncontrolable revolution you get sheeple actually working 24X7 to forge & fasten their own chains thinking it will make them 'safer'.

BTW never said that Bush was directly guilty. Who ever did plan & execute (/11 likely started during the Clinton admin.

[Perd Hapley]

 :rolleyes:

[nraforlife]

Then why not forego the expense and secrecy required and just have the MSM convince everyone that a disaster happened that killed 3000+ people?.....

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That is also done when appropriate- AIDS, ManMade Global Warming, 1980's Kidnapping Crisis, current H1N1 scare........................

[AJ Dual]

What happened on 9/11 obviously took additional explosives.

I mean, when ever in the history of humanity did mere fire melt steel?  I mean, come on, we're talking about steel here people!

[Marnoot]

What happened on 9/11 obviously took additional explosives.

I mean, when ever in the history of humanity did mere fire melt steel?  I mean, come on, we're talking about steel here people!

If we could find a way to melt steel, we wouldn't have to go through the costly process of finding quarries with the appropriate steel part. No more slaving in the girder quarries!

[Racehorse]

current H1N1 scare........................

Of course that's not real. I'm just imagining all of my symptoms and staying home from work because the media brainwashed me.

[mellestad]

Of course that's not real. I'm just imagining all of my symptoms and staying home from work because the media brainwashed me.

Behold, the power of TV news!

[AJ Dual]

If we could find a way to melt steel, we wouldn't have to go through the costly process of finding quarries with the appropriate steel part. No more slaving in the girder quarries!

And the statistical probability of open-pit mines that Rosie O could fall into at least goes up substantially...

[Regolith]

Meh.  The flaw in the conspiracy theory isn't whether or not the steel melted; it's the fact that the steel didn't NEED to be melted.  Steel loses a great deal of strength after it's been heated pasted 800 or so degrees, and becomes extremely pliable far before the point of it actually melting; otherwise, blacksmith's wouldn't have been able to work metal, and we'd have had to cast everything.

Therefor, the fires in the building, fed by aviation fuel and office furniture, carpeting, etc, didn't NEED to get hot enough to melt the steel in order to cause a loss of structural integrity; it just needed to get hot enough to cause the steel to lose its strength, which is quite a bit easier to do.

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

Never mind.

[Perd Hapley]

Would everybody be satisfied if I just admitted that I, fistful, am Baron of Bombast? 

[Strings]

That would be akin to Rosie O admitting to being fat...

[nraforlife]

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Therefor, the fires in the building, fed by aviation fuel and office furniture, carpeting, etc, didn't NEED to get hot enough to melt the steel in order to cause a loss of structural integrity; it just needed to get hot enough to cause the steel to lose its strength, which is quite a bit easier to do.

Soooooooo, steel skyscrapers collapse into their footprints, at near freefall speeds after a bit of fire all the time , right?

[mtnbkr]

[Strings]

>Soooooooo, steel skyscrapers collapse into their footprints, at near freefall speeds after a bit of fire all the time , right?<

Pretty much every time incredibly hot fires are started in their upper 1/3, yeah.

How many times have we HAD those circumstances, again?

[Headless Thompson Gunner]

The WTC towers are interesting in that much of their support structure was located around the perimeter of the buildings.  Any collapse or failure of this sort of structure would likely cause the building to collapse down through its interior.

[Regolith]

The WTC towers are interesting in that much of their support structure was located around the perimeter of the buildings.  Any collapse or failure of this sort of structure would likely cause the building to collapse down through its interior.

This was by design.  You really, really don't want a skyscraper to fall over as a default if the structure fails, particularly in a crowded urban area.

Soooooooo, steel skyscrapers collapse into their footprints, at near freefall speeds after a bit of fire all the time , right?

Not normally, no.  The steel support structures in most skyscrapers are covered with a fire-retardant insulation to prevent them from reaching those temperatures.  Unfortunately, when the 747's hit the WTC buildings, a great deal of this insulation was knocked off; it wasn't designed to deal with the shock of having an airplane rammed into the building.  With no insulation covering the support beams, the fire was able to heat them to the point of failure.

[Balog]

That insulation is designed to deal with normal fires, not tons of jet fuel.

[Perd Hapley]

Alright, guys, quit repeating all that stuff you heard from Limbaugh.   

[Balog]

Hey man I'm just a Republican doing what I'm told.

[nraforlife]

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incredibly hot fires .................

no only kinda average for a highrise burn and of quite short duration.