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John Murtha, 1932-2010
« on: February 08, 2010, 04:06:48 PM »
While I despised the man's politics and I think he was about as corrupt as they came I respect his service.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...p-murtha-dead/
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Murtha enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1952 and became a drill instructor at Parris Island. He served in Korea and received a Bronze Star and Two Purple Hearts for his service in Vietnam. He continued to be a member of the Marine Corps Reserves until he resigned as a colonel in 1990 


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A hint of scandal lingered over much of Murtha's career. The FBI named Murtha an "unindicted co-conspirator" in its ABSCAM sting operation in the late 1970s and early '80s. ABSCAM resulted in the conviction of five House members and one senator. The FBI recorded Murtha on videotape declining a $50,000 bribe from federal agents posing as Arab sheiks. But the congressman did say he could be interested in future dealings. 

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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2010, 04:12:43 PM »
Frankly, all I'm interested in is him getting replaced with someone who knows to step back from Health Care and Amnesty.
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2010, 04:13:38 PM »
I will plop the warning down right now:  Grave dancing will not be tolerated. 
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2010, 04:16:58 PM »


Larry.  Gloating over his death is not very polite.

He was an Eagle Scout, a Marine that worked his way up through the ranks, combat vet, small business owner, etc.  The worst scandal you cited, to prove he was such a horrible person, was him declining a bribe and testifying against people that did accept bribes.  In other words, not breaking the law. 
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2010, 04:22:10 PM »
I didn't consider my comments as gloating over his death. Unless you are refereing to the "King of Pork" bit,  I've heard from several sources that he was kind of proud of that label.
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2010, 04:26:25 PM »
How will his seat be filled? Election, appointment?
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2010, 04:29:07 PM »
Not sure, but I'd guess they'd leave it empty until the November elections.  Might be possible to get a temp appointment though.  Depends on PA law.

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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2010, 04:36:32 PM »
How will his seat be filled? Election, appointment?

The governor has ten days once the vacancy is officially declared to decide on the date for the special election, which can come no sooner than 60 days following that proclamation.

That likely means the special election will be held on May 18
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2010, 04:49:56 PM »
The governor has ten days once the vacancy is officially declared to decide on the date for the special election, which can come no sooner than 60 days following that proclamation.

That likely means the special election will be held on May 18

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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2010, 05:27:14 PM »
All I will say is "I hope he knew Jesus."
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 05:56:52 PM »
  The worst scandal you cited, to prove he was such a horrible person, was him declining a bribe and testifying against people that did accept bribes.  In other words, not breaking the law. 

I tend to think his pre-judging of certain troops accused of rape is more damning.  That's pretty ugly behavior for a man in his position. 
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 06:25:02 PM »
I won't dance on his grave (it's too far away) but I'll bet there are some Marines who will.
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2010, 07:16:15 PM »
I'll honor the man for his military service to this country, nothing more. 

May the Lord comfort his family.

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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2010, 08:05:14 PM »
I'll not celebrate his life, but I'll offer my prayers for comfort to his family.....
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2010, 10:03:51 PM »
I tend to think his pre-judging of certain troops accused of rape is more damning.  That's pretty ugly behavior for a man in his position. 

He ended up get sued for refusing to retract his public judgment of those troops.  While he had the right to disagree with our involvement in Iraq, putting our soldiers on trial in the media was NOT his shining moment in history.

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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2010, 10:44:14 PM »
I once again simply quote Mark Twain:

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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2010, 07:09:01 AM »
I wonder if Johnstown PA will get the HumVee replacement contract.
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2010, 07:57:59 AM »
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2010, 08:40:44 AM »
By all accounts John Murtha served his country honorably while he was active-duty military.

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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2010, 10:20:08 AM »
Didn't he help squash a couple of anti-gun amendments in the last year?


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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2010, 11:32:03 AM »
While I despised the man's politics and I think he was about as corrupt as they came I respect his service.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...p-murtha-dead/
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So long to the King of Pork

 Service? He slandered six US Marines, worse, he did so at wartime, in a way that ensured(for leftist political gain)the highest possible "shock" value guaranteed to spark violent reprisals against our troops in the field!
 His service was to himself....

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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2010, 12:22:19 PM »
Marine, served in two wars, Bronze Star, two Purple Hearts... and he gets taken out by a botched surgery.

That ain't right.

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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2010, 04:06:41 PM »
Question for the PA residents: who is likely to campaign for his seat? Anyone pro-gun, anti-healthcare bill?
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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2010, 04:24:27 PM »
Question for the PA residents: who is likely to campaign for his seat? Anyone pro-gun, anti-healthcare bill?

I'd start looking here:  http://www.pagunrights.com/2010/02/the-future-of-pa-12-for-gun-owners/

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Re: John Murtha, 1932-2010
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2010, 08:02:16 AM »
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and he gets taken out by a botched surgery.

Lets see, the Dem's used Kennedy's death as a push for health reform.  Wonder if they will use Murtha's for the same reason.