The Department of Education has a SWAT team

[Angel Eyes]

They've since pulled the article. There are updates. Original story:

http://centralstockton.news10.net/news/community/dept-education-breaks-down-stockton-mans-door/72578

Ah, that's better.

Also, from C&SD's link:
 
Any of those crimes seem to necessitate a no-knock SWAT raid on a home where the intended subject doesn't live?

I wasn't arguing that.   The notion of the DoE having a SWAT team is something I'd expect in Terry Gilliam's Brazil.

Although to be fair, this is Stockton CA, where residents vacation in Detroit because it's safer ...

[AZRedhawk44]

I'm happy to say that the default rate for my college, for the most recent data  I can find, is 0.6%.

http://collegemeasures.org/reporting/institution/scorecard/sldr/236328.aspx

ASU is 3.1%.

Stanford appears to be at 0.8%.

DeVry does not release their default rates to collegemeasures.org.
University of Phoenix (Phoenix Campus) has a 12.9% default rate.
Collins college has a 10% default rate.

[roo_ster]

I wasn't arguing that.   The notion of the DoE having a SWAT team is something I'd expect in Terry Gilliam's Brazil.

Ayup.

[Boomhauer]

The notion of the DoE having a SWAT team is something I'd expect in Terry Gilliam's Brazil.

I completely agree.

I don't see a legitimate need for agencies like the DOE, USDA, and so forth to have SWAT teams or even gun toting agents when you know, there are whole federal agencies dedicated to LE. Such as the FBI. Got a problem that needs armed popo for a federal crime? Call the local FBI office.

[lee n. field]

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[makattak]

I completely agree.

I don't see a legitimate need for agencies like the DOE, USDA, and so forth to have SWAT teams or even gun toting agents when you know, there are whole federal agencies dedicated to LE. Such as the FBI. Got a problem that needs armed popo for a federal crime? Call the local FBI office.

Exactly. My problem (aside from my little girl having messed up my preferred shift key, making it far more difficult to type this post) is that the DOE has a SWAT team. The use of a SWAT team in this instance may, through some unimaginable circumstances, be legitimate. I doubt that, but it's possible. My problem is that the DOE should never have had such a team in the first place.

[MicroBalrog]

where hubby says she doesn't live

the variety of scams being run is quite artful.  profitable too

What human purpose does a no-knock warrant serve in a fraud case?

Suppose the wife lived there - what was she going to do, fold up her student loan papers and eat them?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

was it a no knock?  or are all of them no knocks in your minds eye?

[MechAg94]

was it a no knock?  or are all of them no knocks in your minds eye?

Well, it isn't no-knock if they knock as they are tearing down the door.

[longeyes]

The big picture is that education is Big Business now...or Big Ed.  Big Ed is no different from the entire public sector union coalition that wants to control America.

Here's a story on how university administrators will shortly outnumber faculty at our institutions of learning:

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2011/06/university-administrators-will.html

[MicroBalrog]

The big picture is that education is Big Business now...or Big Ed.  Big Ed is no different from the entire public sector union coalition that wants to control America.

Here's a story on how university administrators will shortly outnumber faculty at our institutions of learning:

http://mjperry.blogspot.com/2011/06/university-administrators-will.html

Longeyes... I have to ask. Have you attended graduate school?

[MicroBalrog]

http://www.news10.net/news/article/141108/2/Questions-surround-feds-raid-of-Stockton-home

Do you see a knock?

[T.O.M.]

I don't see a legitimate need for agencies like the DOE, USDA, and so forth to have SWAT teams or even gun toting agents when you know, there are whole federal agencies dedicated to LE. Such as the FBI. Got a problem that needs armed popo for a federal crime? Call the local FBI office.

For years now, I've been arguing (mainly over beers and wings) that a great deal of money could be saved by placing all federal criminal investigations in the hands of the FBI, Secret Service, and US Marshall's Serice.  Yes, you would need to increase the budget of these agencies, to a degree, but you could save millions in the budget just by eliminating the duplication.  With seemingly every federal agency having its own investigative and enforcement department, you are talking about hundreds of sworn officers and all of their weapons and equipment that could be removed from the budget.

As for the OP, I'll be interested to see how it all turns out.  His lawsuit for a 4th Amendment violation could be groundbreaking legal precedent...or a quick settlement out of court for an undisclosed amount of cash...

[longeyes]

Longeyes... I have to ask. Have you attended graduate school?

More than one.  But, thankfully, not recently.

I know you're a grad student, Micro.  What is your field, if I may ask?

[MicroBalrog]

More than one.  But, thankfully, not recently.

In my experience, universities are always - no matter the amount of 'administrators' are de-facto run by their professors. Not individual professors, but academics as a class. This is the inner cause of most if not all problems in academia.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

http://www.news10.net/news/article/141108/2/Questions-surround-feds-raid-of-Stockton-home

Do you see a knock?

is there video of the raid?


any affiliation with the black hebrews here? this is an area they've learned to play

[MicroBalrog]

Black Hebrews? Well, I've worked with some. But what does this have to do with this?

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

its an interesting cult here.  specialty is financial scams.  at one time they specialized in getting a member a job in a bank then looting it
they've branched out.
have a history of killing folks
including young kids

[Tallpine]

its an interesting cult here.  specialty is financial scams.  at one time they specialized in getting a member a job in a bank then looting it
they've branched out.
have a history of killing folks
including young kids

and the point is 

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

wanna see the missing 40 pages of affidavit and warrant  see if they are members

[dogmush]

wanna see the missing 40 pages of affidavit and warrant  see if they are members

Let's assume here that the guy in the house is Tony Montana, and he met them at the door with an M203.

That doesn't justify the DEPARTMENT OF GORRAM EDUCATION getting a tac team.  If the student loan skippers  are THAT damn bad, call the FBI.  Every damn federal department doesn't need a SWAT team and the toys that go with them.

And why am I not surprised that you're already painting the guy whose ex-wife the DOE is after as a baby-killer.  I swear to god you never met a jack-boot you didn't lick like.

[longeyes]

In my experience, universities are always - no matter the amount of 'administrators' are de-facto run by their professors. Not individual professors, but academics as a class. This is the inner cause of most if not all problems in academia.

I think that used to be the case, and maybe where you are it still is, but I think American universities have now become one more branch of social welfare filigreed with mythological trappings about education and democracy.  How much real learning gets done is questionable; ditto how much actual preparation for society.  Absolutely staggering amounts of money, much of it public, are channeled through the education machine with increasingly dubious results.  (The hard sciences and engineering remain an endangered oasis.)

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Let's assume here that the guy in the house is Tony Montana, and he met them at the door with an M203.

That doesn't justify the DEPARTMENT OF GORRAM EDUCATION getting a tac team.  If the student loan skippers  are THAT damn bad, call the FBI.  Every damn federal department doesn't need a SWAT team and the toys that go with them.

And why am I not surprised that you're already painting the guy whose ex-wife the DOE is after as a baby-killer.  I swear to god you never met a jack-boot you didn't lick like.

don't know enough yet.  so far the story we got thats being zong'd is lacking in facts.  heck i haven't even seen balko touch this yet

[RoadKingLarry]

Let's assume here that the guy in the house is Tony Montana, and he met them at the door with an M203.

That doesn't justify the DEPARTMENT OF GORRAM EDUCATION getting a tac team.  If the student loan skippers  are THAT damn bad, call the FBI.  Every damn federal department doesn't need a SWAT team and the toys that go with them.

And why am I not surprised that you're already painting the guy whose ex-wife the DOE is after as a baby-killer.  I swear to god you never met a jack-boot you didn't lick like.

You forgot about Sheriff Joe, he doesn't like Joe.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

once upon a time i was greatly a joe fan.  that faded upon closer examination. i also have seen real police gone wild and often find folks blow their "incidents" outa proportion.  and even when they do the zomg choir gathers to sing hallelujahs