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Re: Steve Jobs and the Left's double standard
« Reply #50 on: June 11, 2012, 01:50:47 PM »
ronnyreagan, I'm not missing my point, but you're not entirely getting it, either. It's not entirely about being right or left. George Soros, Buffet, Hollywood, Gore, Edwards and the hundreds of thousands of other "one percenters" who get a pass from the left do something the left thinks is laudable, and they get a pass on their sins.

An example is Buffet giving Obama the "Buffet Rule" to play before audiences. Would Buffet have to pay more in taxes if his "rule" were enacted into law? Sure. But the deals he cut with Obama on the stimulus package more than make up for any additional taxes he might have to pay. If Obama isn't re-elected, and the Buffet rule is never adopted, then Buffet keeps his additional taxes, he gets adulation from the left and exemption for his sins, and everybody is happy.

Ditto George Soros, Hollywood and the rest. The do a little something that doesn't cost them too much, and they get a pass on being evil millionaires and billionaires. They become part of the 99%.

Liberalism is about good intentions, not good results. If a one percenter does a liberal deed with good intentions, he's forgiven his real trespasses.


Exactly, it's that as a group, the Left tends to Emote, rather than Reason.

It's all about how they FEEL about a given company or wealthy individual that matters, either individually, or as a group(think). Laying out facts that other companies who are regularly reviled have lower profits, and are arguably guilty of fewer abuses than Apple, are dragged into Congressional hearings for the purpose of showboating and promoting class warfare, while Apple maybe gets some bad press over Foxconn and Chinese suicides and worker conditions, but it never actually gels as a meme in the public consciousness, like "Big Oil", "Big Pharma", "Big Agra" has.

The fact Apple weathered the Foxconn storm as it did, despite DeSelby's protests to the contrary, proves this.

Another example is "Big Guns". In reality, you couldn't combine every last American gun company, or overseas company's American operations and come up with even the #499-500th place on the Fortune 500 list.  However, the Left (in general) despises firearms and RKBA, so they've been beating the drum about "big guns", trying to do things like explain the expansion of CCW in America over the past decade or so as a craven attempt to do nothing more than sell more guns. The idea that we, the public, actually WANTS to carry those guns is alien to them. The idea that we, the public, are behind the landslide of pro-gun legislation the past 18 years, give or take, is uncomfortable to them, so they paint it as "industry lobbying", rather than public desire.

What modicum of clout the commercial gun-lobby has through the NSSF etc. or other trade groups is because of the public's backing of RKBA, and not the other way around. But that just doesn't fit with the Left's emotional picture of it. (Note, most editorials try to portray the NRA as the industry lobbyist, rather than OUR lobbyist, ignoring the existence of the NSSF entirely. Another little piece of selective fact choosing.)

And even the occasional Leftist/anti-RKBA pundit who does actually get dragged, kicking and screaming to reason on the issue, and writes the obligatory editorial piece of "Is gun-control dead?" etc. despite their acknowledgement of the facts, the overall sense of mourning in the column is still palpable...
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Re: Steve Jobs and the Left's double standard
« Reply #51 on: June 11, 2012, 08:51:11 PM »
The hypothesis makes sense, considering the seeds of Apple's success were sown in the educational/creative fields, and not in the business world.  How can you be morally wrong when professors, teachers, and career college students love you?  It was pretty big news though, when Obama was trying to get Apple's money back from France. 
I don't think the left cares if you're strange or a prick...they love individualism and creativity.  It's always been that way.

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Re: Steve Jobs and the Left's double standard
« Reply #52 on: June 11, 2012, 09:12:21 PM »
Yeah, try being "creative and an individual" drilling for oil, or building a power plant, something much closer to the top of the scale of basic human needs than anything Apple makes.
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Re: Steve Jobs and the Left's double standard
« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2012, 09:50:40 PM »
The Left is generally not involved in the "dirty hands" kind of creativity.  Temperament? DNA?  Who knows?  They like those who, they feel, most resemble themselves (at least wishfully).  But in this they aren't so different from anyone else: we admire what we understand and identify with.

That said, to believe that it is less "creative" to build computer architectures or communications networks than power plants is a bit reactionary, no?  Human beings need energy, but they also need communication and art.  This is why the market tells us that Facebook, whether we like it or not, is worth as much as Boeing.

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