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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: roo_ster on October 09, 2008, 03:04:54 PM
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Well, I'll be dipped in apple butter.
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/2008/10/021724.php
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This may be a case of the irresistible force meeting the immovable object. The political, media, cultural and social establishments are determined to elect the pro-status quo, anti-change candidate, Barack Obama, as President. The power and money arrayed behind Obama seem unbeatable. At the same time, it is inconceivable that the American people would elect a socialist President. So, if this report is correct, something's got to give.
In June sources released information that during his campaign for the State Senate in Illinois, Barack Obama was endorsed by an organization known as the Chicago "New Party". The 'New Party' was a political party established by the Democratic Socialists of America (the DSA) to push forth the socialist principles of the DSA by focusing on winnable elections at a local level and spreading the Socialist movement upwards. ...
After allegations surfaced in early summer over the 'New Party's' endorsement of Obama, the Obama campaign along with the remnants of the New Party and Democratic Socialists of America claimed that Obama was never a member of either organization. The DSA and 'New Party' then systematically attempted to cover up any ties between Obama and the Socialist Organizations. However, it now appears that Barack Obama was indeed a certified and acknowledged member of the DSA's New Party.
On Tuesday, I discovered a web page that had been scrubbed from the New Party's website. The web page which was published in October 1996, was an internet newsletter update on that years congressional races. Although the web page was deleted from the New Party's website, the non-profit Internet Archive Organization had archived the page.
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So the New Party claimed Obama as a member as of 1996. Progressive Populist magazine agreed in this editorial:
New Party members and supported candidates won 16 of 23 races, including an at-large race for the Little Rock, Ark., City Council, a seat on the county board for Little Rock and the school board for Prince George's County, Md. Chicago is sending the first New Party member to Congress, as Danny Davis, who ran as a Democrat, won an overwhelming 85% victory. New Party member Barack Obama was uncontested for a State Senate seat from Chicago.
The Democratic Socialist Party of America was slightly more modest in claiming Senator Obama as an adherent:
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Still, it appears clear that as of 1996, the New Party and its parent organization the Democratic Socialists of America considered Barack Obama to be their guy--one of a handful of avowed socialists running for office at any level in the United States. It strikes me that Obama has some explaining to do.
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MSM:
*crickets...*
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McCain is too 'mainstream' (read: gutless and worthless) to hit on this.
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I doubt anyone cares. A surprising number of people don't understand what socialism is, or why it's bad.
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McCain is too 'mainstream' (read: gutless and worthless) to hit on this.
I doubt it - the Dems went after Palin for being associated with the AIP (which over here was portrayed as a kind of moosified KKK), and if it turns out that Obama was a Socialist candidate for State Senator as late as 1996 it may well be a useful stick to beat him with (especially in the light of Ayers).
I do have concerns about how true this allegation is though - you would have thought something like this would have come out earlier, especially during the Dem primaries.
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I doubt anyone cares. A surprising number of people don't understand what socialism is, or why it's bad.
Yes.
FREE STUFF! OKAY!
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FREE STUFF! WHERE? HOW DOES I GETS IT?
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FREE STUFFS!! HOW MUCH DOES IT COST AND WHERE DOES I GET IT?
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I doubt anyone cares. A surprising number of people don't understand what socialism is, or why it's bad.
Not true. People actually WANT it.
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McCain is too 'mainstream' (read: gutless and worthless) to hit on this.
I'm not so sure... think about it this way: If McCain brings this up, it would take about thirty seconds for the Obama supporters in the media to basically say, "Nuh-uh, you're making things up"--claim it's fabricated, question the source, say that the New Party was lying, or exaggerating. Heck, how long do you think it would take a New Party representative to state that Obama was never a member? How many people would bother to fact-check?
That would be the last thing stuck in America's mind--McCain smearing Obama, and it's all a lie, because that's the last word.
He's in a real Catch-22. He won't win unless he drags out Obama's true colors, and he can't win if he does, because the people who will get the last word to the vast majority of the public will always be Obama supporters, and any attempt he makes to wipe the thin veneer of charisma-proletariat (yeah, I made that word up) from Obama's face will result in his own nose getting pushed in.
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We get the government we seek.