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McCain really does want to lose...
« on: October 10, 2008, 12:51:43 PM »
Note to McCain staffers.

I DO NOT CARE ABOUT BIPARTISANSHIP. AT ALL. The only reason you should be reaching to the other side of the aisle is to choke someone.

The DEMOCRATS turned Fannie and Freddie into PUBLIC HOUSING that FAILED AGAIN just like the PROJECTS FAILED. They BLOCKED REFORM AND OVERSIGHT.

And they are OWNING you on this issue, people are blaming REPUBLICANS.

Take the damned gloves off, or we are going to have President OBAMA!
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2008, 12:53:51 PM »
+!1!!oneoneonetwotwoone!1!

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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2008, 01:43:23 PM »
I'd be on the drum beating of the voter fraud that seems to be finally proven lately. Then his ties to socialist party and finally how some Islamic fundametalist funded his Harvard education.

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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2008, 01:45:41 PM »
You're right. McCain is not in it to win it.

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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2008, 01:51:11 PM »
I think we lose no matter who wins, and I also think much if not all of what's happening was orchestrated a long while back.

If McCain doesn't ignite and put aside his "high road" moral unction, he is not only to going to lose this Election and with it OUR COUNTRY but he is going to be remembered very, very badly.

The reality is that we need to get like-minded citizens together and forge a new movement that is not bought and sold by the powerbrokers.

Obama and now Biden have called McCain out.  Either he puts up or shuts up.
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2008, 02:18:30 PM »
You're right. McCain is not in it to win it.

McCain is very much in this race to win. Unfortunately and unlike his opponent he's running it with one hand tied behind his back and shackles on his ankles.

McCain is a graduate of the US Naval Academy. Just like West Point it has a very strict HONOR Code.

In my opinion, his academy training, combined with a long military career, and a long family history of military service makes McCain both emotionally and intellectually incapable of taking what he, as well as many others, consider the political low road. That will cost him the election because the reality of it is that politics is a nasty, dirty and dishonorable profession.

In his own heart I am sure Senator McCain believes that even if he goes down in flames at least he will have done so with his honor intact.
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2008, 02:57:02 PM »
McCain is very much in this race to win. Unfortunately and unlike his opponent he's running it with one hand tied behind his back and shackles on his ankles.

McCain is a graduate of the US Naval Academy. Just like West Point it has a very strict HONOR Code.

In my opinion, his academy training, combined with a long military career, and a long family history of military service makes McCain both emotionally and intellectually incapable of taking what he, as well as many others, consider the political low road. That will cost him the election because the reality of it is that politics is a nasty, dirty and dishonorable profession.

In his own heart I am sure Senator McCain believes that even if he goes down in flames at least he will have done so with his honor intact.

Leaders of teh USA do not have the luxury of a personal honor code that has detrimental effects on the citizens and especially if he has sworn to uphold the COTUS.  I expect him, as Senator and POTUS candidate, to place the well being of hte COTUS and hte USA before any personal code of his.



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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2008, 03:25:36 PM »
I DO NOT CARE ABOUT BIPARTISANSHIP. AT ALL. The only reason you should be reaching to the other side of the aisle is to choke someone.

Or punch them in the face.  Your outstretched hand should be a mailed fist.

I don't want to work with the democrats, I want them tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail.

You said you would fight, well dammit, take off the gloves and fight!!!!!!! 

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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2008, 04:13:17 PM »
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In his own heart I am sure Senator McCain believes that even if he goes down in flames at least he will have done so with his honor intact.

A code of honor is only 'honorable' when you're only fighting for yourself.

When you are being attacked by people whose stated goal is to destroy everything America is about, it is your moral duty to fight as dirty as you can.
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2008, 05:20:26 PM »
Have you heard from the Angry Man?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC_pBOunTvc
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2008, 06:12:18 PM »
Guys...
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All I did was take a shot at explaining why, IMO, McCain isn't attacking Obama.

I don't think he's right. When you're in a fight for or the fight of your life there's no such thing as fair. You fight to win. Some might say, (and many have here in various threads involving Islamic Terrorists) that all that accomplishes is to drag you down to their level, you become no better than them. McCain is in that camp. He's not going to stoop down to Obama's level.

Personally - I think that's tommie rot and extremely ill advised. When the fights over and you've won you can go right back to living the good and honorable life unlike the evil dishonorable one who if he won would still be evil and dishonorable.

McCain will probably lose when he could have won if he fought dirty. For some honor, doing what one believes is right and always behaving correctly is a mainstay of their lives. Win or lose that's not something anyone can take from them. I may not like McCain's RINO politics anymore than I like Obama's socialist politics but in this case the man's doing what he thinks is right and win or lose I respect him for it.
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2008, 06:20:20 PM »
Has anybody here seen Neon Genesis Evangelion? McCain is being Shinji Ikari.
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2008, 06:33:56 PM »
McCain is a graduate of the US Naval Academy. Just like West Point it has a very strict HONOR Code.


If his honor code allows Obama to defeat him without putting up a fight, his personal honor will be the dishonor of America....but he dishonored himself when he betrayed America to side with the Dems in his Gang of 14....  :mad:
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2008, 06:40:25 PM »
Now we are being told, en masse, that our honor isn't permissible.  That is to say, we are being threatened.  Folks, we are in the anteroom of brownshirt fascism.

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The head of the nation's biggest labor federation is joining the chorus of voices warning about the increasingly angry crowds coming to John McCain's campaign events.
At rallies this week, McCain's criticisms of Democrat Barack Obama have been met with shouts of "terrorist," "liar," and other harsh words.

"Sen. John McCain, Gov. Sarah Palin and the leadership of the Republican party have a fundamental moral responsibility to denounce the violent rhetoric that has pervaded recent McCain and Palin political rallies," said John Sweeney, president of the AFL-CIO, which has endorsed Obama. "When rally attendees shout out such attacks as 'terrorist' or 'kill him' about Sen. Barack Obama, when they are cheered on by crowds incited by McCain-Palin rhetoric -- it is chilling that McCain and Palin do nothing to object.

"In a world where unspeakable violence is too often promulgated by extremists, it is no small or trivial matter to call someone a terrorist -- or to incite potentially dangerous individuals toward violence," Sweeney said in a statement. "John McCain, Sarah Palin and Republican leaders are walking a very thin line in pretending not to hear the hateful invectives spewed at their rallies. McCain should end this line of attack in the strongest possible terms. Anything less puts McCain in the same camp as the racists and extremists who are bringing their angry rhetoric to his campaign events."


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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2008, 07:23:02 PM »
Yawn.

I keep hearing about the "kill him" and "terrorist" and such.  Where is all this coming from?  Anyone seen any news articles on this?

The other day, I looked up the "kill him" comment.  It comes from a Washington Post story, and according the story, the comment would seem to have applied to Bill Ayers, not Obama.  Palin was talking about Ayers at the time.  Now, when a terrorist with blood on his hands gets off the hook on a technicality, I'm not terribly surprised or outraged that someone yelled something un-nice about him.  Are you? 

And I don't expect Palin to pay any attention to it.  She should ignore it.
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2008, 07:42:16 PM »
McCain just now said in a rally that we "shouldn't fear an Obama presidency"...WHAT THE HELL?!

The crowd booed him, loudly. His own crowd! I would have too!

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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2008, 07:44:38 PM »
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McCain will probably lose when he could have won if he fought dirty.

Is it "fighting dirty" to tell the truth about your opponent ???

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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2008, 07:49:18 PM »
Have you heard from the Angry Man?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC_pBOunTvc

And McCain just laughed and smiled.  Then he spun.
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2008, 08:12:31 PM »
I noticed that, too. 
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2008, 09:05:08 PM »
Wow,  I guess the labor leaders haven't bothered to look over at DailyKrap Kos or DU to see what their own supporters have been saying about a sitting President for the last 8 years.    ;/

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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2008, 09:08:19 PM »
McCain doesn't want to lose, obviously-he just doesn't have a choice.

The reason why the Ayers association and claims of terrorist ties aren't working is that they look patently ridiculous to be arguing about when the market is down by half.  The ties aren't so threatening as an entire nation's retirement destroyed to the majority of the population that would consider voting for either candidate.

McCain's angry cries of support about Ayers and Obama are essentially meaningless, because the number of people swayed by the story is not enough to elect him (obviously.)

I'm interested in knowing the name of the Islamic fundamentalist who paid for Obama's college, if anyone has it.
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2008, 09:28:50 PM »
The DEMOCRATS turned Fannie and Freddie into PUBLIC HOUSING that FAILED AGAIN just like the PROJECTS FAILED. They BLOCKED REFORM AND OVERSIGHT.

And they are OWNING you on this issue, people are blaming REPUBLICANS.

Take the damned gloves off, or we are going to have President OBAMA!

I agree with the latter sentiment - he needs to be as nasty as Obama's people have been.  They both made promises to play nice, and they've both broken their word, but Obama's people are getting away with a LOT more than McCain's could ever hope to.  Refer to the thread regarding the Garbage Palin Kids cartoon.  Part of me really wants to make a horribly stereotypical analog of Obama just to make a point... but the other part doesn't want to get beaten to death while serving jail time for a "hate crime".

However, the Republican party had plenty of time to use majority power in either house to slow or stop this whole mess before it started.  They're not the cause, but they sure haven't been the solution.

We're not electing a president, we're electing a president, a cabinet, some SC justices, all kinds of bureaucrats... we give a *expletive deleted*it what kind of people the candidates hang out with, because they appoint their friends to positions of power("You're doing a heck of a job, Browny.").  Don't even think Obama is too principled to do it; all Presidents have.

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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2008, 10:46:30 PM »
I guess if one of McCain's closest allies had been Eric Rudolph or Tim McVeigh it might just matter...a little, huh?

This will be remembered as the Hypnosis Election.  We have one guy who was brainwashed in Hanoi and another guy who's brainwashing the American people.

Enough to drive a sane man crazy as a coot.

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« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2008, 02:06:18 AM »
McCain's angry cries of support about Ayers and Obama are essentially meaningless, because the number of people swayed by the story is not enough to elect him (obviously.)

This sentence is very confusing. Are you saying McCain was actually angry about something?   :O  I think we'd all pay to actually see that for once.

I had the misfortune to see some of Larry King's show (ate out tonight).  The leftist twits on the panel were outraged about people at McCain/Palin events saying mean things about Ayers or Obama.  There were demands that the two put a stop to this awful thing somehow.

Five minutes later, they were claiming that Obama's long-standing alliance with Ayers (guilty of much more than threats, and much more closely tied to Obama than simply attending a campaign speech) was nothing but a guilt-by-association smear tactic.   :laugh:  Of course, they had used the same line about J-Wright, Phlager, et al. 
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Re: McCain really does want to lose...
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2008, 07:44:47 AM »
The title of this thread echos what I've written quite a number of times in other threads . . . McCain doesn't really want to win.
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