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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2008, 06:30:37 PM »
Wow. What a sh-tbag. If she gets divorced, I hope she eventually gets the husband that she deserves.
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2008, 06:35:24 PM »
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For the love of all the Gods, lady, you can find something to fill your day without crushing the souls of those around you.  Open up a small home business, get involved in a charity, get a degree (or another degree), write a book, do SOMETHING besides whining of what a pathetic life you have.

Well, yeah, but it's a lot more stylish to be a perpetual victim.

Why?   Seriously, I want to know.  I honestly don't grasp the concept.
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2008, 07:33:31 PM »
Reading stuff like that makes be glad(er) I've remained single for nigh on 20 years now.

I've little doubt her husband thinks "What happend to the coy young lass I married, and where did THIS bitter crone come from?"
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2008, 08:15:19 PM »
When I saw the thread title I thought it was going to be about Hillary.

I read the article and laughed.  I hope the guy decides to give her what she wants.
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2008, 08:37:55 PM »
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She must be an immensely selfish person to write all that knowing that her husband will read it. And she wonders why her marriage isn't great...

If he's as oblivious as she describes him to be, maybe not.

I have to say, none of what she writes is terribly shocking.  It's fairly common, enough so to be mundane.  A lot of women who bought into the feminist ideals and ideology of the 70's are going through this. 
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2008, 08:46:54 PM »
How dare she be unhappy with her husband.  If it weren't for all these feminists, women would know what was good for them!

Err....being stridently against divorce and any destruction of a family by any other means, I have to say, sometimes I'm taken aback by the anti-woman feelings that come out in response to articles like these.

The fact is, it is not the sole fault of women and feminists that there are so many divorces.  A man who won't work with his wife and arrange for these sorts of problems before he even marries her is just as much at fault as his wife for the bitterness.

Learning to pick up your shoes because it really annoys your wife is a small matter.  Having the discipline to ignore the boob tube when your child wants attention is a bigger one-also mentioned in the article, and a concern of this lady that I don't think anyone would dispute is legitimate.



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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2008, 09:35:33 PM »
I don't think anyone here is disputing the fact that the husband has his little human foibles.  She's the one demanding superhuman perfection from him, not us.  Heck, she not only demands perfection, she's resting her entire emotional and spiritual fulfillment on it.

It's no wonder she's an emotional train wreck.

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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2008, 09:39:48 PM »
Even if her husband is a total dick, and nothing she says makes him seem that way, to air your dirty laundry on mother friggin' CNN.com...

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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2008, 09:41:12 PM »
There's being unhappy with one's husband...

Then there's being a soul-less, heartless, absolute bitch of a hag, and publishing said content where he will eventually read it. 

He needs to get rid of her like a bad habit, and posthaste!
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2008, 01:20:50 AM »

Remember, odds are, she'll get the majority of the assets plus a monthly payment in the divorce.


....not if he makes it look like an accident.... Wink

Out of the entire piece, this is what caught my attention most....

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No. Your husband is not your best friend. Your best friend is your best friend. If your husband were your best friend, what would that make your best friend -- the dog? When a woman tells me that her husband is her best friend, what I hear is: I don't really have any friends.

I love my wife. In fact, behind God, she is the most important person in my life--my best friend. And she's told me that, behind God, I'm the most important person in hers. Keeping it that way takes work from both of us...and a committment that we made to each other and to God that we are in this for the long run...no quitting. Even when she leaves the door wide open...  cheesy

Sounds to me like this woman is another believer in the "if I'm not being made happy with the way things are now, I'll quit and move on instead of working at making it work". Immediate self-gratification is her priority...not her marriage and family. They BOTH need some serious marital counseling....preferably based on "The Five Love Languages"....
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2008, 03:37:43 AM »
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2008, 03:55:42 AM »
How dare she be unhappy with her husband.  If it weren't for all these feminists, women would know what was good for them!

Err....being stridently against divorce and any destruction of a family by any other means, I have to say, sometimes I'm taken aback by the anti-woman feelings that come out in response to articles like these.

The fact is, it is not the sole fault of women and feminists that there are so many divorces.  A man who won't work with his wife and arrange for these sorts of problems before he even marries her is just as much at fault as his wife for the bitterness.

Learning to pick up your shoes because it really annoys your wife is a small matter.  Having the discipline to ignore the boob tube when your child wants attention is a bigger one-also mentioned in the article, and a concern of this lady that I don't think anyone would dispute is legitimate.
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2008, 04:28:12 AM »
Yes, he enjoys playing devil's advocate. 

I think most on this thread would be critical of a guy who whined about his wife in an article like this also.
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2008, 04:57:42 AM »

Remember, odds are, she'll get the majority of the assets plus a monthly payment in the divorce.


....not if he makes it look like an accident.... Wink

Out of the entire piece, this is what caught my attention most....

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No. Your husband is not your best friend. Your best friend is your best friend. If your husband were your best friend, what would that make your best friend -- the dog? When a woman tells me that her husband is her best friend, what I hear is: I don't really have any friends.

I love my wife. In fact, behind God, she is the most important person in my life--my best friend. And she's told me that, behind God, I'm the most important person in hers. Keeping it that way takes work from both of us...and a committment that we made to each other and to God that we are in this for the long run...no quitting. Even when she leaves the door wide open...  cheesy

Sounds to me like this woman is another believer in the "if I'm not being made happy with the way things are now, I'll quit and move on instead of working at making it work". Immediate self-gratification is her priority...not her marriage and family. They BOTH need some serious marital counseling....preferably based on "The Five Love Languages"....

Ya know, I read this, and thought...

+1!!!!

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Seriously though, I find myself in the same situation as you do seeker.  My wife and I are each other's best friends.  Yeah, I know that being married for 14.5 months doesn't set any records (actually, in this day and age, maybe it does) but I can't EVER foresee that changing.  I posted something in another thread, a bit of advice given my wife and I by our pre-marital counselor...

People think that marriage is 50/50.  Sounds reasonable.  Two halves making a whole.  But that's wrong.  Marriage MUST be 100/100.  Both partners giving 100% to the marriage, not holding anything back.

From what I read in that article, that woman is MAYBE giving 10%.  And expecting her husband to make the marriage perfect.  Now, I'm far from perfect.  I leave my shoes out occasionally.  Sometimes I even forget to put the toilet seat down.  And then other times when I have days off in the middle of the week, my wife comes home to find a spotless home.  Or vice versa, (well, except for the toilet seat) but we both realize that making our marriage work means picking your battles, and instead of being upset at the other about the shoes in the middle of the hallway, picking them up and putting them in the closet, regardless of whose they are...
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2008, 04:59:32 AM »
Why are divorces so expensive?


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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2008, 05:33:48 AM »
In the end, I have an attitude similar to seeker_two. 

I think most on this thread would be critical of a guy who whined about his wife in an article like this also.

Yup.  If a guy went off like that, whose wife was a decent sort but had minor imperfections, I would tell him to "man up."  Actually, I have said that to a couple of guys.

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Her hubby's issues are relatively minor.  If she wants to marry a perfect husband, she needs to convert to R Catholic and become a nun.  Until then, she'll have to settle for a man who (according to her) supports her, helps raise their kids, does not physically or emotionally abuse her, and has some minor imperfections.

To air her dirty laundry out for all to read, to include her husband, is a rather vicious act that dwarfs her litany of her husband's faults.  I mean, if he had dressed her down in public as to her imperfections, I suspect she would have seen it as much more heinous than the shoe-bit.

I think I have some idea as to her predicament.  I spent some time in the service in a unit intolerant of even minor imperfections.  I can clean, organize, and fix stuff up so well & squeaky I have had persnickety anal type As give me complements on my efforts.  I was accustomed to reacting to orders & requests in a highly motivated, efficient, and instantaneous fashion...and expecting the same from my subordinates.

But, to expect my wife (who has no military experience) to meet the level of housekeeping and reaction to requests that became second nature to me is unreasonable.  I still see all those imperfections I was trained to spot, but I let it go.  Toss kids into the equation and things get even more stretched.  I get over it and move the hell on with my life & marriage, as my wife is not the sum total of her imperfections and my pet peeves.

Also, I am sure my wife could bring a list of imperfections she sees in me.



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A similar rule is also applicable to men.
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #41 on: August 27, 2008, 06:22:28 AM »
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Rather, like every other male I know, he is merely a Moderately Bad Man

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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #42 on: August 27, 2008, 06:39:24 AM »
I don't even think that's he's a bad man.

Just a bit of a clueless idiot.

His wife, on the other hand?

Turbo bitch.
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2008, 09:56:16 AM »
What I think is a really, really good explanation of the damage feminism has done to women, men, and society as a whole.

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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2008, 01:29:49 PM »

The late 20th Century feminists did lie to their fellow women.  No, you can't have it all.  Or, you can't have it all at the same time and do right by the components of the "all."  Something will be neglected unless one stages out that "all" over time.

A similar rule is also applicable to men.

A lot of our current social ills have stemmed from this "have-it-all-&-have-it-now" attitude.....but it's nothing new....in ancient times, it was called "covetousness"....and that is mentioned a few times in the Bible, too....
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2008, 01:52:48 PM »
I work with women like this; they complain about their husband/boyfriend constantly. It makes me wonder why these guys stay with those women.

I would love to read a similar article written by her husband. I bet if he wrote something similar to what she wrote, he would be raked over the coals by women.

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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2008, 02:52:30 PM »
If we can't be friends we can't date. Unless they want to skip the friends step, but that usually sets off alarm bells and gold-digger alerts.
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2008, 04:42:38 PM »

Do you read the articles or just go through the posts, determine the general consensus, and adopt a contrary viewpoint?

Usually I just use my noggin when reading an article-and many of the "disputes" are illusory, like how in this thread, a comment on how blaming feminism for this state of affairs is wrong (and there is only blame for feminism here) turns into "oh, you must be disagreeing with everyone that he's getting a raw deal!"

The point is that this situation and the root causes are more complicated than "turbo b" wifey and "the feminists."
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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2008, 04:52:19 PM »
Just a bit of a clueless idiot.

Maybe my standards are too low, but from the article he doesn't even sound like that.  If someone seriously accused me of trying to kill them by leaving my shoes in the middle of the floor, I wouldn't be in too much of a hurry to fix that behavior either.  Yeah, I'm obsessing on the shoe thing.  The tv/computer thing is a more complicatd issue, potentially.  The car thing?  An accident, both at fault.  The shoe thing? Turbo bitch.

No, it has nothing to do with feminism and everything to do with an overblown sense of entitlement and an unreasonable and unrealistic idea of people and relationships.

Sure, anyone has a right to be unhappy in their marriage.  Not a whole lot of point to wallowing in it, but hey, if that's waht floats her boat, go for it.  But publicly excoriating him like this?  Evil and wrong, not feminist.

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Re: What a bitter hag...
« Reply #49 on: August 27, 2008, 06:03:17 PM »
There's a lot of guys I know who beat their wives bloody, are drunk just about every night, blow their paychecks on cocaine, lock the wife and kids in a trailer, and do all sorts of other despicable things.

I'm hoping she gets the divorce she's dreaming about and marries one of the guys I know.