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Re: wow... how some people comment
« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2009, 10:11:08 AM »
While we are on the subject of quotes, here is a quote that I believe to be real.

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Socialize it. I am serious. GM, Ford, and Dodge sells there assets to the U.S. Government, The new car company makes electric vehicles, keeps the workers and even expands the work force, continue development by the government to create a hydrogen fuel cell.

15 years in the future the U.S. Government is mass producing hydrogen cars. But that is a little too progressive and "Socialist" for most people to take, but I believe it would work as long as there was transparency. If Obama does what he has said he will do, this would be along the same line as our infrastructure or schools or military. The revenue from the car sells would go into development for hydrogen.

I am not here to bash the big 3, but they do deserve it, at least the management does. I respect and honor the workers of these companies, but when Ford had an electric vehicle in the 1970s but abandoned the program and started making huge SUVs instead of blazing the trail, thats their fault.

I don't like the car companies, and if they would have changed there ways this would not be happening now. If they produced cars 10 years ago that got 40 to 50 mpg, you wouldn't see so many foreign cars on the road

There are just too many gems in this one.

*Government existing to emply the worker.
*The poster thinking this idea is new and progressive.
*Belief that the government can create anything faster than the private sector.
*Belief that car companies failed because people want to drive small electric cars these last 10 years.

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Re: wow... how some people comment
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2009, 10:36:50 AM »
While we are on the subject of quotes, here is a quote that I believe to be real.

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Socialize it. I am serious. GM, Ford, and Dodge sells there assets to the U.S. Government, The new car company makes electric vehicles, keeps the workers and even expands the work force, continue development by the government to create a hydrogen fuel cell.

15 years in the future the U.S. Government is mass producing hydrogen cars. But that is a little too progressive and "Socialist" for most people to take, but I believe it would work as long as there was transparency. If Obama does what he has said he will do, this would be along the same line as our infrastructure or schools or military. The revenue from the car sells would go into development for hydrogen.

I am not here to bash the big 3, but they do deserve it, at least the management does. I respect and honor the workers of these companies, but when Ford had an electric vehicle in the 1970s but abandoned the program and started making huge SUVs instead of blazing the trail, thats their fault.

I don't like the car companies, and if they would have changed there ways this would not be happening now. If they produced cars 10 years ago that got 40 to 50 mpg, you wouldn't see so many foreign cars on the road

There are just too many gems in this one.

*Government existing to emply the worker.
*The poster thinking this idea is new and progressive.
*Belief that the government can create anything faster than the private sector.
*Belief that car companies failed because people want to drive small electric cars these last 10 years.

You missed the best: he specifically says, " If Obama does what he has said he will do, this would be along the same line as our infrastructure or schools or military. "

Yep, if I was going to tell someone how efficiently I was going to run something, I'd use the schools, government roads, and the military as my examples. >.<
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Re: wow... how some people comment
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2009, 10:38:43 AM »
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15 years in the future the U.S. Government is mass producing hydrogen cars.

...why do I have visions of the Zaporozhets, here?
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Re: wow... how some people comment
« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2009, 10:56:11 AM »
...our extreme wealth allows bajillions of dumb folks to thrive, procreate, and mouth off.

I think I'll copy that for future use.
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Re: wow... how some people comment
« Reply #29 on: May 20, 2009, 11:02:10 AM »
So, the solution is to remove incentives for productivity for the big 3, build cars that nobody wants while hyping a future non-solution to an overhyped problem, line the pockets of a new group of bureaucrats, and end up legislating import cars and fun cars out of existence in order to make the resulting product "competitive."

I keep reading that quote and inserting comments about how the workers of the big 3 are being exploited, or how the inevitable course of history and advancement of technology will create this result anyway, and it doesn't really sound out of place at all.  Yet despite the glaring logical errors and strong tendency to sweep complexity under the rug, the message is coherently written.  I didn't believe "obamafan1" wasn't being sarcastic or trolling, but this guy might be totally serious.  And the fact that a lot of people will read that quote and say, "that sounds reasonable," is terribly worrisome.

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Re: wow... how some people comment
« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2009, 06:21:29 PM »
So, the solution is to remove incentives for productivity for the big 3, build cars stuff that nobody wants while hyping a future non-solution to an overhyped problem, line the pockets of a new group of bureaucrats, and end up legislating import cars and fun cars businesses out of existence in order to make the resulting product "competitive."

That's the Anti-Dog-Eat-Dog bill in a nutshell.
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Re: wow... how some people comment
« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2009, 06:46:39 PM »
Which explains Fistful Savalas.
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