Sierra Bullets on the .22lr shortage

[Balog]

http://sierrabullets.wordpress.com/2014/04/07/why-cant-i-find-22-lr-ammunition/

Echoes what I and others have said on here. Depressing to think how long it will most likely take to get back to where it used to be.

[RevDisk]

.22lr is expensive game to get into. I concur with what they said. However, it is possible to expand production. Not enough to suddenly fill hoardingfest, but enough to reduce the interval of undersupply. I hope a couple of the companies review the numbers and find it profitable to put in additional manufacturing capacity, rather than "We'll make what we make, and charge whatever we can."

Granted, that's capitalism. Sorta. It does get a bit distorted due to the amount of regulation on both production and importation. Still, I respect taking a profitable conservative approach. I also hope that enlightened self-interest gets folks cranking out more rounds.

[Angel Eyes]

“Why can’t I find any .22 LR ammo anywhere?”

You can find .22LR ammo without too much difficulty, but what's widely available is high-end stuff like Eley for 14+ cents/round.

Cabelas has CCI/Speer .22LR in stock as I type this, but they limit sales to 50 rounds per person per day.  Unless you have a store nearby, it's not worth the trouble.

A faint ray of sunlight: prices have been gradually easing over the past week or two.

[Tallpine]

All of the above.

I've got a pretty good supply bought long before the shortage, but I've pretty much given up shooting more than about six rounds at a time because I can't replace it.

And I'm 60 miles / 1.5 hours from town 

[geronimotwo]

i'm hoping that the gougers have wharehouses full of the stuff, and take a deep bath when the shelves do fill again!  

eta:  likely a portion of the problem, that wasn't touched on, is that more people are shooting .22 as the price of centerfire continues to go up.

[Perd Hapley]

.22lr is expensive game to get into. I concur with what they said. However, it is possible to expand production. Not enough to suddenly fill hoardingfest, but enough to reduce the interval of undersupply. I hope a couple of the companies review the numbers and find it profitable to put in additional manufacturing capacity, rather than "We'll make what we make, and charge whatever we can."

I've already heard of two companies expanding their capacity. If I remember right, one of them is Remington, which is supposed to be building a new plant somewhere.

What I would really like to see, once supply and demand even up a bit, is stores like K-Mart or Sears or Target getting back into the ammo business. With enough perceived demand, it could happen.

[French G.]

.223 is back to glut, local shop covered up in it, no purchase restrictions. Wishing .22 gets there soon. And Varget, 4895, and Titegroup. I'm buying all of it. :)

[K Frame]

THOSE LYING BASTARDS!!!

THE MAN HAS GOTTEN TO THEM! GGGGGGGGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNN TO THEM!

[birdman]

What's interesting is how the low end ammo demand also restricts the exotic stuff.
For a while, it was extremely tough to find large magnum rifle primers, and the large caliber/slow burn/high energy powders (N560/570, retumbo, 4831SC, etc)...fungibility of raw materials I guess, better for those companies to divert raw material and mfg to higher demand powders/primers (since magnum and regular LR primers vary only in composition, and all powders start from the same raw materials) than the lower demand stuff.

Fortunately, I had the lucky/unlucky aspect of having no time to reload and shoot due to work combined with having a pretty good inventory of components already.

[MechAg94]

i'm hoping that the gougers have wharehouses full of the stuff, and take a deep bath when the shelves do fill again!  

eta:  likely a portion of the problem, that wasn't touched on, is that more people are shooting .22 as the price of centerfire continues to go up.

This.  I would rather see the manufacturers raise their prices.  If they make more profit, it would encourage more production.  Gougers camping out at stores to buy up everything they get in doesn't help anyone.

[AJ Dual]

Granted, it's just data from their web-crawler bot, but this is interesting.

At least the graphs seem to be moving in the right direction. (Scroll to the bottom of the page, the graph is interactive and can be clicked on)

http://www.ammospy.net/

[harveydane]

Granted, it's just data from their web-crawler bot, but this is interesting.

At least the graphs seem to be moving in the right direction. (Scroll to the bottom of the page, the graph is interactive and can be clicked on)

http://www.ammospy.net/

Hello guys.  I am the owner of AmmoSpy.  Just wanted to give some more information on the trending graphs.  They are calculated based on the data that our crawler pulls from online ammo retailers.  So while this availability may not be reflected at your local Walmart, it does give you a general idea of how the market is trending.  The graph updates everyday at 12PM EST with the data gathered from the previous day.  Hope that helps.

Being the owner of the site, I have been watching the 22lr very closely and while it appears more and more ammo is becoming available the average price per round is still hovering around 14 to 15 cents.  With 6 to 8 cent per round popping up here and there (for only a couple minutes) from Cabelas mostly and a couple other retailers every now and then.  That being said, its still going to be a long time before we ever see 4 and 5 cents per round readily available In my opinion.

[41magsnub]

Via gunbot, I get alerts most every day for 4 cents a round on Remington thunderbolts from Cabelas. 

[Brad Johnson]

Having some experience with manufacturing, I can only imagine the expense for uber-specialized tooling and manufacturing process needed to begin rimfire production from scratch.  You'd hafta move a lot of boxes to cover that kind of investment.

Brad

[harveydane]

Via gunbot, I get alerts most every day for 4 cents a round on Remington thunderbolts from Cabelas. 

Yes, we also have email alerts available.  Onsite alerts system should be live within the week and will be far superior to gunbots system.

[K Frame]

Having some experience with manufacturing, I can only imagine the expense for uber-specialized tooling and manufacturing process needed to begin rimfire production from scratch.  You'd hafta move a lot of boxes to cover that kind of investment.

Brad

Yep. Even the manufacture of the machines needed to manufacture ammunition takes quite awhile.

But try explaining that to "Timmy Thumbsuck, intardnet ranter" who KNOWS, because he's talked to people who know!, that these companies are sandbagging production and sending it all to secret government warehouses.

[Balog]

Hello guys.  I am the owner of AmmoSpy.  Just wanted to give some more information on the trending graphs.  They are calculated based on the data that our crawler pulls from online ammo retailers.  So while this availability may not be reflected at your local Walmart, it does give you a general idea of how the market is trending.  The graph updates everyday at 12PM EST with the data gathered from the previous day.  Hope that helps.

Being the owner of the site, I have been watching the 22lr very closely and while it appears more and more ammo is becoming available the average price per round is still hovering around 14 to 15 cents.  With 6 to 8 cent per round popping up here and there (for only a couple minutes) from Cabelas mostly and a couple other retailers every now and then.  That being said, its still going to be a long time before we ever see 4 and 5 cents per round readily available In my opinion.

Welcome aboard. Google alerts for mention of your website I presume? In any case, glad you could stop in.

[AJ Dual]

Hello guys.  I am the owner of AmmoSpy.  Just wanted to give some more information on the trending graphs.  They are calculated based on the data that our crawler pulls from online ammo retailers.  So while this availability may not be reflected at your local Walmart, it does give you a general idea of how the market is trending.  The graph updates everyday at 12PM EST with the data gathered from the previous day.  Hope that helps.

Being the owner of the site, I have been watching the 22lr very closely and while it appears more and more ammo is becoming available the average price per round is still hovering around 14 to 15 cents.  With 6 to 8 cent per round popping up here and there (for only a couple minutes) from Cabelas mostly and a couple other retailers every now and then.  That being said, its still going to be a long time before we ever see 4 and 5 cents per round readily available In my opinion.

I do want to say your site is very comprehensive, and just the clickable graphs alone are really handy.  

[harveydane]

I do want to say your site is very comprehensive, and just the clickable graphs alone are really handy.  

Thanks for the kind words.  We are working hard to make the best online ammo search engine out there. :)

[Triphammer]

Nice site, HD. Clear, quick, easy.

[makattak]

Welcome aboard. Google alerts for mention of your website I presume? In any case, glad you could stop in.

Could also be trackback from a number of clicks directly from this thread. Either way, welcome aboard, Mr. Harvey.

I'll compliment your website as well. I'm quite impressed with the ease of use. I'll be stopping by again, to be sure.

[harveydane]

Welcome aboard. Google alerts for mention of your website I presume? In any case, glad you could stop in.

Yeah I keep my google analytics up all day and saw a referral come from here so I decided to check you guys out :).  Looks like a nice board you got here.  Ill be sticking around.

[Sawdust]

Yeah I keep my google analytics up all day and saw a referral come from here so I decided to check you guys out :).  Looks like a nice board you got here.  Ill be sticking around.

New guys buy ammo and beer.

I'll take .22lr, please. 

Sawdust

[HankB]

. . . I would rather see the manufacturers raise their prices . . .

Rest assured, this wish WILL be granted.

Funny, though, how BIG retailers that used to move a LOT of product routinely got PALLETS of .22lr (such as Federal bulk packs) are now unable to get more than a case or so in each shipment, despite massive production efforts by the ammo companies . . . and the smaller retailers aren't able to get any at all.

[Tallpine]

Yeah I keep my google analytics up all day and saw a referral come from here so I decided to check you guys out :).  Looks like a nice board you got here.   Ill be sticking around.

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