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Title: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Ben on March 14, 2014, 04:50:15 PM
Can I sue for a poor education as a kid? I was told the Constitution was adopted in 1787. Sheila Jackson Lee set me straight:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/13/math-problem-rep-jackson-lee-claims-constitution-is-400-years-old/
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Viking on March 14, 2014, 05:29:26 PM
Isn't she the one who was worried that Guam(?) would tip over?
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: bedlamite on March 14, 2014, 05:36:07 PM
Isn't she the one who was worried that Guam(?) would tip over?

Nope, that was Hank Johnson. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7XXVLKWd3Q)

Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: SADShooter on March 14, 2014, 05:40:20 PM
Come on, pickers-of-nits, she's correct if you count in moonbat years...
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Ben on March 14, 2014, 05:47:16 PM
Come on, pickers-of-nits, she's correct if you count in moonbat years...

You're right - 200, 400, it's all interchangeable and also how you make stuff like AGW end of the world scenarios viable if you're a progressive. You need that wiggle factor.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Scout26 on March 14, 2014, 05:54:30 PM
The sad fact is that's not the dumbest thing she's ever said.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: roo_ster on March 14, 2014, 06:02:03 PM
The sad fact is that's not the dumbest thing she's ever said.

So true.

I would accuse her of stupidity, but I would not want to offend stupid people.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Ben on March 14, 2014, 06:09:10 PM
The sad fact is that's not the dumbest thing she's ever said.

What I find even sadder is that likely a majority of the US population doesn't know the difference either, or even care. Yet mispronounce some celebrity's name, and you're a moron.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Tallpine on March 14, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
Math is just more white oppression of blacks.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: lupinus on March 14, 2014, 07:36:00 PM
The sad fact is that's not the dumbest thing she's ever said.
Hell it's one of the smarter things she's said.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Fly320s on March 14, 2014, 08:02:57 PM
Can I sue for a poor education as a kid? I was told the Constitution was adopted in 1787. Sheila Jackson Lee set me straight:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03/13/math-problem-rep-jackson-lee-claims-constitution-is-400-years-old/

At this point, what does it matter?
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: French G. on March 15, 2014, 12:50:26 AM
The collective voice of those that keep electing her is far dumber than anything she'll ever utter.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Strings on March 15, 2014, 01:47:51 AM
Wait a sec

Since when does she (or her party) care whether something was constitutional?
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 15, 2014, 08:22:55 AM
The continued election of that psycho is evidence of the failings of inner cities. 
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Viking on March 15, 2014, 09:15:17 AM
Math is just more white oppression of blacks.
I've actually read people arguing emoting that logic and evidence-based thinking is a plot to keep non-Whites down. I wonder if they realize just how racist or self-hating, depending on their own ethnicity, that this sounds?
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: MechAg94 on March 15, 2014, 06:21:40 PM
The sad fact is that's not the dumbest thing she's ever said.
Yes, she IS the one who asked a NASA spokesman if the Mars Rover was going to visit the Apollo landing sites.

She happens to be in gerrymandered 100% Democrat district in Houston where the voters don't care.  I guess if they split that district up, those people would vote stupidly for a bunch of bad politicians instead of one.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Bigjake on March 15, 2014, 09:09:42 PM
Yes, she IS the one who asked a NASA spokesman if the Mars Rover was going to visit the Apollo landing sites.

She happens to be in gerrymandered 100% Democrat district in Houston where the voters don't care.  I guess if they split that district up, those people would vote stupidly for a bunch of bad politicians instead of one.


This.  Damage control.

That said,  I can't put into words how sick that individual  makes me.   Laws are being made,  and that *expletive deleted*ing moron has a say...
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: geronimotwo on March 17, 2014, 07:09:02 AM
what i gleaned from that link is that 233 congresscritters voted for a bill that will make it illegal to break the law....... and it would need to be signed by the guy that they are trying to enforce it on...... :facepalm:
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: 230RN on March 22, 2014, 01:12:56 PM
Interestingly, Renée Fleming, the opera star who sang the Star Spangled Banner so magnificently at the last Super Bowl, also made reference to "400 years" in this interview at 1:31...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcKZJzwYuDI

I'm wondering if it wasn't so "unforgiveable" for Sheila Jackson Lee to have made an offhanded but erroneous reference to a time going back to the start of the colonization as "400 years."

Just wondering if our tendency to mock legislators who make the slightest mis-step isn't inappropriate at times and might reflect badly on us.

No fan of Congresswoman Lee, but I've made some pretty good inattentive mistakes, too.

I never referred to Africa as a "country," like Bush, nor to the "57 States," like President Obama, but unless one is reading from a prepared script, I wonder if such things are quite so unforgiveable.

Anyhow, for those having a desire for a thrilling rendition of the Star Spangled Banner (perhaps the best ever done, in my opinion), here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7etXoNrwP8c

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Perd Hapley on March 22, 2014, 04:54:01 PM
Seems pretty obvious to me that Fleming was talking about opera, which is about 400 years old.

Lee seems to have been saying that we have been operating under the Constitution for 400 years.

Apples and oranges. Besides, two factors working against Lee, here. For one, she's already well-known for being a dimwit. (Not to mention a Congresswoman, but that may be redundant.) And then there's the whole thing where Congressfolk are expected to have a half-way decent handle on our nation's history, or at least its political system. 
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Tallpine on March 22, 2014, 06:33:02 PM
Quote
Congressfolk are expected to have a half-way decent handle on our nation's history, or at least its political system. 

That's racist  :P

Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: KD5NRH on March 23, 2014, 05:56:03 AM
I've actually read people arguing emoting that logic and evidence-based thinking is a plot to keep non-Whites down.

You mean the fields where Asians most soundly kick our butts?
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: vaskidmark on March 23, 2014, 07:49:45 AM
Interestingly, Renée Fleming, the opera star who sang the Star Spangled Banner so magnificently at the last Super Bowl, also made reference to "400 years" in this interview at 1:31...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcKZJzwYuDI

I'm wondering if it wasn't so "unforgiveable" for Sheila Jackson Lee to have made an offhanded but erroneous reference to a time going back to the start of the colonization as "400 years."

Just wondering if our tendency to mock legislators who make the slightest mis-step isn't inappropriate at times and might reflect badly on us.

No fan of Congresswoman Lee, but I've made some pretty good inattentive mistakes, too.

I never referred to Africa as a "country," like Bush, nor to the "57 States," like President Obama, but unless one is reading from a prepared script, I wonder if such things are quite so unforgiveable.

Anyhow, for those having a desire for a thrilling rendition of the Star Spangled Banner (perhaps the best ever done, in my opinion), here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7etXoNrwP8c

Terry, 230RN


Catching up on various threads, which is why this is a late post.

Prepare to rant!  Ready, rant!

<insert skidmark's standard #2.73b rant about the Star Spangled Banner not being a vehicle for personal interpretation.>

Yes, I feel better now, thank you.

stay safe.

PS - While I acknowledge that most politicians and other celebrities are human (I think there are some we all have our doubts about) it is fitting and proper that we hold them to a high standard in all they do.  Otherwise they might begin to get the notion that they can get away with doing a half-assed job.  Would that more folks bothered to be as concerned about the quality of work their servants do.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 23, 2014, 08:37:25 AM
Interestingly, Renée Fleming, the opera star who sang the Star Spangled Banner so magnificently at the last Super Bowl, also made reference to "400 years" in this interview at 1:31...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcKZJzwYuDI

I'm wondering if it wasn't so "unforgiveable" for Sheila Jackson Lee to have made an offhanded but erroneous reference to a time going back to the start of the colonization as "400 years."

Just wondering if our tendency to mock legislators who make the slightest mis-step isn't inappropriate at times and might reflect badly on us.

No fan of Congresswoman Lee, but I've made some pretty good inattentive mistakes, too.

I never referred to Africa as a "country," like Bush, nor to the "57 States," like President Obama, but unless one is reading from a prepared script, I wonder if such things are quite so unforgiveable.

Anyhow, for those having a desire for a thrilling rendition of the Star Spangled Banner (perhaps the best ever done, in my opinion), here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7etXoNrwP8c

Terry, 230RN


No.  There was a time when our leaders were our intellectual betters.  Like those guys with wigs and funny pants who founded the country.
Now, we're led by morons who couldn't intelectualize themselves out of a wet paper bag, who are elected by people who think that they are owed something by someone, and who can't differentiate you're and your.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: TechMan on March 23, 2014, 09:05:25 AM
No.  There was a time when our leaders were our intellectual betters.  Like those guys with wigs and funny pants who founded the country.
Now, we're led by morons who couldn't intelectualize themselves out of a wet paper bag, who are elected by people who think that they are owed something by someone, and who can't differentiate you're and your.

Quoted for the pure truth of the statement.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Ben on March 23, 2014, 10:18:26 AM
I'd be more inclined to let slide her mixing up of the moon and mars (though that in itself is ridiculously boneheaded for the "leadership' of our country). I demand that someone in her position know the constitution inside and out, and even if her interpretation is somewhat different than mine, she should know the words and when they were written. That should be a basic required test before anyone can even run for elected office.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Tallpine on March 23, 2014, 11:16:27 AM
No.  There was a time when our leaders were our intellectual betters.  Like those guys with wigs and funny pants who founded the country.
Now, we're led by morons who couldn't intelectualize themselves out of a wet paper bag, who are elected by people who think that they are owed something by someone, and who can't differentiate you're and your.

Your wright.  ;)
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Triphammer on March 23, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
Your wright.  ;)

But, what than?
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: Triphammer on March 23, 2014, 01:03:06 PM
I'd be more inclined to let slide her mixing up of the moon and mars (though that in itself is ridiculously boneheaded for the "leadership' of our country). I demand that someone in her position know the constitution inside and out, and even if her interpretation is somewhat different than mine, she should know the words and when they were written. That should be a basic required test before anyone can even run for elected office.

This. If my plumber was wrong about some esoteric bit of NEC. If my butcher couldn't sweat copper, so what. The sorriest bit were those commenters making excuses for her lack of basic, job related, facts.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: vaskidmark on March 24, 2014, 02:08:23 PM
No.  There was a time when our leaders were our intellectual betters.  Like those guys with wigs and funny pants who founded the country.
Now, we're led by morons who couldn't intelectualize themselves out of a wet paper bag, who are elected by people who think that they are owed something by someone, and who can't differentiate you're and your.

That may be true when comparing those dudes to today's population.  But back then they were a mix of the middle and upper-middle classes of their day.  Not the idle rich and not the backwoods bumpkin.

It says more about the decline of learning (as opposed to education) since then.  I'd hate to have to pick a "Dream Team" of APSers to go up against just one of the folks in the founding generation.

stay safe.
Title: Re: Constitution is 400 Years Old
Post by: roo_ster on March 24, 2014, 04:48:52 PM
That may be true when comparing those dudes to today's population.  But back then they were a mix of the middle and upper-middle classes of their day.  Not the idle rich and not the backwoods bumpkin.

It says more about the decline of learning (as opposed to education) since then. I'd hate to have to pick a "Dream Team" of APSers to go up against just one of the folks in the founding generation.

stay safe.

I bet I would take Gouverneur Morris in either a sprint or long distance run.  After his 30th year or so.

OTOH, he would eat my rhetorical lunch.