The best ADHD meds for kids and adults

[MillCreek]

https://www.medpagetoday.com/psychiatry/adhd-add/74460

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpsy/article/PIIS2215-0366(18)30269-4/fulltext

Based on the results of a meta-analysis, Ritalin for kids and amphetamines for adults is the recommended drug for ADHD.  In my wife's fourth grade class, the ADHD kids are most commonly on Ritalin.

[MechAg94]

I was thinking of a topical treatment that is administered several times in succession.  I am sure there are other non-drug alternatives. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxj8jJMZSCY
Bad recording, but hulu doesn't work here so the official South Park link wouldn't play.

[Jamisjockey]

We moved to managing my son's ADHD via natural supplementation, diet and exercise. We got the same results as we were getting with him on medications, minus the nervous ticks, moodiness, and crashing.  Oh, and we couldn't get him to eat enough, he was borderline failure to thrive and went an entire year without gaining weight.
He's a thriving teenager now, healthy and smart.

Ritalin made him an emotional wreck.  He did best on adderall.  But I'm so glad we kicked that *expletive deleted*it to the curb.
His low days on medications were sad and depressing as a parent.  I can't believe we ever gave that *expletive deleted*it to him at all.
It's over prescribed, pushed by doctors who don't have any idea on how to manage a child with other means, and abused by too many parents who don't discipline their kids.  But at least the schools are begging parents to use it, too.  
This is a video testimonial my wife did on our son a few years ago. 
https://youtu.be/Ros0tZoNLYU

[Jamisjockey]

I was thinking of a topical treatment that is administered several times in succession.  I am sure there are other non-drug alternatives. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxj8jJMZSCY
Bad recording, but hulu doesn't work here so the official South Park link wouldn't play.

There are plenty of kids who legit have an issue.  But the system is rigged to place them on medications.  It's the easiest and most profitable solution so it's what's pushed.

[MechAg94]

I hadn't heard that adult ADHD was a thing.  I would think regular exercise and a reasonable diet would help most people.

[RoadKingLarry]

I'm not too keen on the prevailing "dope 'em all, particularly the boys" trend.
Using my 12 year old grandson as my closest example. The kid is sharp as a tack. But he gets bored if he isn't engaged. My opinion, after having met a couple of his teachers, is he is smarter than them and they resent it.
Locked up in class all day, no real physical activity and no real mental challenge and the libtarded teachers can't understand why the kids get bored and antsy and act out so the kids must have a problem and need to be medicated.
Teaching to the lowest common denominator has destroyed our public education system.

[MechAg94]

There are plenty of kids who legit have an issue.  But the system is rigged to place them on medications.  It's the easiest and most profitable solution so it's what's pushed.

Agreed.  I make light of it because I think most kids don't really need it and the negative effects are rarely talked about.  IMO, the lack of attention to the potential negatives is a tragedy.  I don't know if it is the school administrations who don't want to address it or the fact that the pharmaceutical companies spend so much in advertising that the media is afraid to anger them.

[RoadKingLarry]

Anyone have any stats on how many of the juvenile school shooters were taking ADHD meds?

[Northwoods]

Anyone have any stats on how many of the juvenile school shooters were taking ADHD meds?

SSRI's and SSNRI's are the primary pharmaceutical for all mass shooters, including school shooters.  I'm sure AD(H)D drugs feature too though.

[makattak]

I'm not too keen on the prevailing "dope 'em all, particularly the boys" trend.
Using my 12 year old grandson as my closest example. The kid is sharp as a tack. But he gets bored if he isn't engaged. My opinion, after having met a couple of his teachers, is he is smarter than them and they resent it.
Locked up in class all day, no real physical activity and no real mental challenge and the libtarded teachers can't understand why the kids get bored and antsy and act out so the kids must have a problem and need to be medicated.
Teaching to the lowest common denominator has destroyed our public education system.

If the kid were really smart, he'd take the prescription and earn his college education fund by selling them to college kids.






(Sad that I need the disclaimer, but NO, don't really do that.)

[French G.]

I hadn't heard that adult ADHD was a thing.  I would think regular exercise and a reasonable diet would help most people.

I used to yell at my coworker to take his pills. It can be very much a thing.

[Angel Eyes]

What was this thread about?

[Jamisjockey]

What was this thread about?

The best amphetamines to put children on...

[Scout26]

The Best Meds for ADHD kids seems to be something called "Outside".   As in go play in it.

[brimic]

My wife takes some sort of amphetamine for ADHD
Without it, she barely functions.
With it, she literally runs 10 hrs straight, rearranges the furniture 4x, the kitchen twice, and starts a home remodeling job, and makes an elaborate meal, while I'm at work...

I wish there were a happy medium.

[Hawkmoon]

Teaching to the lowest common denominator has destroyed our public education system.

Too true.

My late ex-wife was a high school English teacher when I met her and while we were married. I don't know who in her schhol's administration she has pissed off, but she was usually assigned the worst students, the ones who were considered borderline unteachable. One time I looked at what she was assigning them to read, and I laughed. No wonder the kids -- especially the boys -- weren't interested. I suggested she try having them read something like Edgar Rice Burroughs, Journey to the Center of the Earth or the John Carter on Mars series. Those used good, proper English grammar and punctuation, and were interesting enough that the kids might stay with them long enough to absorb some reading skills.

Then I suggested she assign the boys in her class to write an essay about their car. What is was, and what they had done to modify it. Her kids knew she was married to a racer and former state autocross champion, so I told her to let the kids know that I would do the grading. They were all over it -- she was amazed by the length of some of the essays. They weren't great, but at least the kids were writing.

It's a question of finding something that attracts and holds their interest.

[KD5NRH]

I used to yell at my coworker to take his pills. It can be very much a thing.

I do that all the time.  Usually benadryl.

Because you'll stop making snot noises when you're unconscious and stuffed under a table in the break room.

[makattak]

I do that all the time.  Usually benadryl.

Because you'll stop making snot noises when you're unconscious and stuffed under a table in the break room.

You couldn't pay me to take benadryl...

No, I take that back, but you'd HAVE to pay me to take benadryl.

MUCH prefer Claritin. Maybe suggest it to your cow-orker and he'll be more likely to take it. (And you can find generics quite cheaply.)

[makattak]

Too true.

My late ex-wife was a high school English teacher when I met her and while we were married. I don't know who in her schhol's administration she has pissed off, but she was usually assigned the worst students, the ones who were considered borderline unteachable. One time I looked at what she was assigning them to read, and I laughed. No wonder the kids -- especially the boys -- weren't interested. I suggested she try having them read something like Edgar Rice Burroughs, Journey to the Center of the Earth or the John Carter on Mars series. Those used good, proper English grammar and punctuation, and were interesting enough that the kids might stay with them long enough to absorb some reading skills.

Then I suggested she assign the boys in her class to write an essay about their car. What is was, and what they had done to modify it. Her kids knew she was married to a racer and former state autocross champion, so I told her to let the kids know that I would do the grading. They were all over it -- she was amazed by the length of some of the essays. They weren't great, but at least the kids were writing.

It's a question of finding something that attracts and holds their interest.

I assume your late ex-wife was a fairly intelligent woman, and yet was unable to come up with these (to us) very obvious options to engage the interest of the boys.

She was likely also representative of the women in education, who make up the VAST majority of elementary and secondary school teachers.

Is it any wonder that boys are "falling behind"? Even without the teachers actively hostile to boys, it seems many of them cannot understand how boys think.