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Title: ThatThin Blue line?
Post by: brimic on June 26, 2013, 05:16:47 PM
http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/your-views-b9941179z1-213047191.html

This is regarding the article, "Ex-officer gets 26-month term for strip searches" (June 23).

Many may be elated, saying the officer was a dirty, crooked cop and got what he deserved. However, I just can't put Michael Vagnini in the same category of police officers who never took their oaths seriously. These officers had stolen, sold drugs or committed sexual assaults for their sexual gratification and never really cared about getting the bad guys off the streets. I'm aware of both types of these officers from my 30 years in law enforcement.

Do some officers push the envelope in their attempts to obtain evidence, make arrests and ultimately clear offenses? Yes, some do. Unlike the officer who purely commits a criminal act for his personal benefit, there are officers who believe their improper actions are just borderline violations or, in Vagnini's case, illegal conduct that is really for the best interest of the community at large. These officers also trust that their aggressive activity is truly sanctioned by upper management because of no negative feedback.

I believe that Vagnini was in fact one of the majority of the dedicated officers, the 99.9% who unselfishly work the holidays, go to court on their off days and continued to do what they swore to do, protect and serve.

Evidence of Vagnini's dedication and work ethic would have been his assignment to the district's gang unit. There were two prior complaints in addition to widespread rumors throughout the department about his conduct, yet he remained on the gang unit. I can't help but wonder what his personnel evaluations were reflecting during this period.

Vagnini did let the public down; however, it's also obvious that the Milwaukee Police Department let Vagnini down.

Ted Engelbart
Hustisford

What this police officer was convicted of:
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/ex-milwaukee-officer-gets-26-months-in-prison-for-strip-cavity-searches-b9938948z1-212486141.html

"A former Milwaukee police officer who performed illegal strip and body cavity searches on dozens of drug suspects was sentenced Friday to 26 months in prison and an additional 34 months of extended supervision.

Michael Vagnini, 34, pleaded no contest in April to four felonies and four misdemeanors stemming from his practice but avoided conviction for sexual assault charges, which were dismissed.

Prosecutors and the judge said Vagnini's actions shocked the conscience of the community, but his own lawyer said the whole system was to blame for encouraging and rewarding Vagnini's aggressive tactics, which he said were no secret within the department and the court system."
"Assigned to District 5, Vagnini regularly pulled over drivers on a pretense of not wearing a seatbelt or of having darkly tinted windows and searched them without a legal reason, according to prosecutors.

Vagnini conducted searches of men's anal and scrotal areas, often inserting his fingers into their rectums, according to the criminal complaint. Vagnini acknowledged performing one of the searches, and at least one suspect said Vagnini planted drugs on him."
"The searches occurred on the street and in district stations over a period of two years."
Title: Re: ThatThin Blue line?
Post by: brimic on June 26, 2013, 05:19:42 PM
So this piece of extruded excrement not only supports a cop convicted of hand-raping people during traffic stops, but has been aware or scumbags in uniform for 30 years as a LEO and has done nothing about them?
 ;/ [barf]
Title: Re: ThatThin Blue line?
Post by: griz on June 26, 2013, 05:42:58 PM
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there are officers who believe their improper actions are just borderline violations or, in Vagnini's case, illegal conduct that is really for the best interest of the community at large

So pulling somebody over for no real reason and strip searching them is just pushing the envelope in the best interest of the community?  Anybody who actually believes that should not be an officer in my opinion.  It's not a big step from there to planting evidence "in the best interest of the community".  If the police don't think they need to obey the law it's a police state.
Title: Re: ThatThin Blue line?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on June 26, 2013, 05:50:02 PM
Vagnini = Vick Mackie.



Totally unsympathetic here.

As long as he ACTUALLY SERVES 26 months in prison, I even think it's a perfect sentence for the crime.  Hopefully it's not one of those "3 months in a minsec facility and then released on parole for 2 years" situations.

I would like to see followup charges of abuse of authority under color of law, though.  Need more of those prosecutions, as well as violation of oath of office for Feds.
Title: Re: ThatThin Blue line?
Post by: cordex on June 26, 2013, 07:35:45 PM
I bet a lot more people knew about it than are being held responsible, and that is a shame.
Title: Re: ThatThin Blue line?
Post by: HankB on June 27, 2013, 10:38:24 AM
As long as he ACTUALLY SERVES 26 months in prison, I even think it's a perfect sentence for the crime. 
Cavity searches for traffic stops? He ought to be on the sex offender registry after he's released from prison!
Title: Re: ThatThin Blue line?
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on June 27, 2013, 10:45:42 AM
Cavity searches for traffic stops? He ought to be on the sex offender registry after he's released from prison!

Agreed.
Title: Re: ThatThin Blue line?
Post by: cordex on June 27, 2013, 10:54:52 AM
Cavity searches for traffic stops? He ought to be on the sex offender registry after he's released from prison!
Yeah.  Alongside every TSA agent ever.
Title: Re: ThatThin Blue line?
Post by: RevDisk on June 27, 2013, 11:11:49 AM
Cavity searches for traffic stops? He ought to be on the sex offender registry after he's released from prison!

Wonder how many were minors.
Title: Re: ThatThin Blue line?
Post by: Fitz on June 27, 2013, 11:25:47 AM
I'm usually not one for cop bashing

But in this case, i think the bashing is warranted.

A cavity search for a traffic stop is a gross abuse of power.