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Tempest in Hawaii
« on: September 12, 2013, 06:27:02 AM »
Thought I would share this with you just to put in perspective your concept of how terribly wrong things are going.

http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/mckinley-statue-controversy-brewing/-/8905354/21875864/-/6jewea/-/index.html

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HONOLULU — A century-old bronze statue of President William McKinley is making waves in some circles in the native Hawaiian community.

"What you have depicted on that scroll in his right hand, is not correct," said Keanu Sai, a lecturer at Windward Community College.

 McKinley is holding a treaty of annexation. But Sai says that's historically inaccurate.

Others call the the statue inappropriate, and a fraud.
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A group of Hawaiians advised him of plans of an annual protest on Presidents Day.
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http://www.mckinley.k12.hi.us/history.html

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....A statue of President McKinley was commissioned for $8,000. Completed in New York, the bronze eight-ton statue was shipped to Honolulu and dedicated on February 23, 1911.   ....

\Lemme see here  1911 to 2013 is, umm, wait a second, I'll figure it out - - OK, got it!  It's 102 yeears!

And suddenly there is a kerfuffle brewing that may turn into an annual protest?

Things must be doing exceptionally well in paradise if this is what has got their feathers all ruffled.

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Re: Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2013, 07:22:25 AM »
If some country did today what we did to hawaii then we would go to war over it.

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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2013, 08:24:34 AM »
If some country did today what we did to hawaii then we would go to war over it.

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And if some country did today what we did to the Indians the UN would issue a very strongly worded letter and send in blanket inspectors.

What's your point?
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Re: Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2013, 08:38:41 AM »
If some country did today what we did to hawaii then we would go to war over it.

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Judgeing historical events with modern ethics and morals is douchebaggery at it's finest.
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2013, 08:56:59 AM »
And if some country did today what we did to the Indians the UN would issue a very strongly worded letter and send in blanket inspectors.

What's your point?

Good point. We should send smallpox tainted blankets to the UN building posthaste.
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2013, 09:05:35 AM »
If some country did today what we did to hawaii then we would go to war over it.

damn phone

Doesn't happen often but we're in complete agreement here.

But we can't undo it.  Or can we?  The Soviet Union gave up its conquered states.
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2013, 09:12:10 AM »
Doesn't happen often but we're in complete agreement here.

But we can't undo it.  Or can we?  The Soviet Union gave up its conquered states.
And the justification for this is?
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2013, 09:51:15 AM »
And the justification for this is?

I think they already got their revenge by giving us Obama  =(
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2013, 09:53:14 AM »
And the justification for this is?

Would help us get rid of California! >:D
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2013, 09:54:17 AM »
I think they already got their revenge by giving us Obama  =(

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Re: Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2013, 10:03:11 AM »
Judgeing historical events with modern ethics and morals is douchebaggery at it's finest.

Taking someone over through force or subversion is a fairly timeless "dick" move.


Spelling "Judging" incorrectly, however, is douchebaggery at its finest.

So is putting an apostrophe in "its" in the context of "its finest."
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2013, 10:12:05 AM »
The Melian Dialog explains timeless realities, no matter how soft-headed we have become.






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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2013, 12:23:16 PM »
How about we ship more homeless to Hawai'i instead?  They can all sleep at the foot of the statue on President's Day (To keep the 12 protesters at bay).
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2013, 12:34:03 PM »
Doesn't happen often but we're in complete agreement here.

But we can't undo it.  Or can we?  The Soviet Union gave up its conquered states.

And you think that Hawaii would willingly leave the Union? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2013, 09:01:26 PM »
you fantasize that no other country would want hawaii?
http://www.uhero.hawaii.edu/assets/JapaneseInvest.pdf
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2013, 04:06:24 AM »
Much as the natives complain, I can't see them preferring Japan over the US.
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2013, 08:45:20 AM »
 "the other side of the fence" rules don't apply?
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2013, 11:39:32 AM »
"the other side of the fence" rules don't apply?

Unless they're ethnic Japanese yeah. Japan (and China and Korea for that matter) have highly insular cultures that make the most stereotypical "dam furriners took our jerbs" American seem like hippy love fests in comparison.
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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2013, 02:07:13 PM »
Unless they're ethnic Japanese yeah. Japan (and China and Korea for that matter) have highly insular cultures that make the most stereotypical "dam furriners took our jerbs" American seem like hippy love fests in comparison.

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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2013, 09:18:18 PM »
And you think that Hawaii would willingly leave the Union? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

There was quite the active secession movement among native Hawaiians when I was stationed there in the '70s.
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Re: Re: Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2013, 06:30:34 AM »
There was quite the active secession movement among native Hawaiians when I was stationed there in the '70s.
more active now

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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2013, 08:07:52 AM »
According to a correspondent of mine, a highly educated native Hawaiian, some of them (natives, like him) just want to go back to the Kingdom, without any real idea of what's to be done after that. 

Let's face it, aboriginal life in most of the Pacific was pretty easy.  You reach up in a tree for food you fish in the ocean for fish, fresh water was usually available, no real need for brick-and-mortar shelter, no need for much beyond the proverbial "grass skirt" for raiment.  Probably the biggest worries were volcanoes, hurricanes, and the "Bloombergs*" of the next Island over wanting your Island.

No traffic, no debates over a new rail line up your Island, no "work," no pollution, no noise...

Not bad, eh?  I wouldn't mind that myself.

I suspect the "kerfuffle" is just an example of left-wing agitators having found something "new" to cause hate and discontent about.  Standard operating procedure for left-wing agitators.  Churn up the people with bullhorns and slogans.  Get them "trained" for future protests, desptie the triviality of the present new "cause."

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Re: Tempest in Hawaii
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2013, 05:42:22 PM »
Maybe Hawaii seceding will be the precursor to the "great divorce" longeyes was always going on about. I give it about as much chance of actually happening...  :rofl:
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