Author Topic: Man beats daughter's molester to death--do you think he'll be charged?  (Read 21054 times)

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If she used a Teflon-coated pan, she'll do Federal time.....

Even more if it had an exotic wood handle :(
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Even more if it had an exotic wood handle :(

.....or too many foreign parts....
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Bad news they are charging him with homicide.
Did sharpton and jackson make an stink? That is the only way this is possible.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/19/texas-beating-death-girl-alleged-molester-is-ruled-homicide/
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Bad news they are charging him with homicide.
Did sharpton and jackson make an stink? That is the only way this is possible.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/19/texas-beating-death-girl-alleged-molester-is-ruled-homicide/

As I understand it, every such death (self-defense or not) goes to the grand jury in Texas. I don't think that this is "bad news."
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As I understand it, every such death (self-defense or not) goes to the grand jury in Texas. I don't think that this is "bad news."

From what I read of it, the DA and the sheriff are following the appropriate procedure.  I hope the grand jury comes back with a no bill.
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Bad news they are charging him with homicide.
Did sharpton and jackson make an stink? That is the only way this is possible.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/19/texas-beating-death-girl-alleged-molester-is-ruled-homicide/

He is not being charged with homocide. The death of the attacker was ruled a homocide by whoever is in charge of that decision (could be a medical examiner or a DA, I don't know).  By definition, a death caused by another is a homocide.

The Grand Jury will decide whether the father gets charged with a crime. My bet is that he won't be charged.
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A person having molested my daughter would be lucky if the cops got to him first.

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As I understand it, every such death (self-defense or not) goes to the grand jury in Texas. I don't think that this is "bad news."

That's my understanding as well. Even police shootings go to the GJ.

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Bad news they are charging him with homicide.
Did sharpton and jackson make an stink? That is the only way this is possible.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/19/texas-beating-death-girl-alleged-molester-is-ruled-homicide/

???

The article to which you linked specifically says the grand jury met and decided NOT to charge him.

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Authorities say a Texas father who beat to death a man who tried molesting his 4-year-old daughter will not be charged.

Officials said the grand jury met Tuesday and declined to return an indictment against the father in the death of 47-year-old Jesus Mora Flores.

Do you understand the difference between a coroner's finding of "homicide" as opposed to a criminal charge of murder, manslaughter, or negligent homicide? "Homicide" is not a charge, it is a statement of fact -- "homicide" means that a person was killed by the action of another person. Any time a person kills someone else it's a homicide. Sometimes it is ruled "justifiable homicide," which is what appears to be what happened in this case.
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I hit the  link that never_retreat posted.. The article says the grand jury refused to indict, with some additional details that explain (to me) why they no billed the case.

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How does a living humanoid become deceased?

-- Accident
-- Suicide
-- Natural causes
-- Homicide

Was he charged with homicide or was the death determined to be homicide as opposed to suicide or accident or natural causes?  Now its up to the GJ of Tejas to determine the nature of the homicide.
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The article to which you linked specifically says the grand jury met and decided NOT to charge him.

Do you understand the difference between a coroner's finding of "homicide" as opposed to a criminal charge of murder, manslaughter, or negligent homicide? "Homicide" is not a charge, it is a statement of fact -- "homicide" means that a person was killed by the action of another person. Any time a person kills someone else it's a homicide. Sometimes it is ruled "justifiable homicide," which is what appears to be what happened in this case.

Fox must have changed their mind. It clearly sad he was being charged.
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Father was no-billed by the Grand Jury.  I think this one is done....
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Father was no-billed by the Grand Jury.  I think this one is done....

Roger that.

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That's my understanding as well. Even police shootings go to the GJ.



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That's my understanding as well. Even police shootings go to the GJ.

I think the key here is that once the GJ says it's good, nobody else has much of a leg to stand on in claiming otherwise unless something really major changes.  (And I think that would have to be something like finding a carefully documented plan in the father's handwriting to frame the dead guy and kill him.)

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Grand jury, law enforcement, and, yes, the DA all did their jobs properly, so the family can get on with their lives without being victimized twice.

Good.

And we're all just a little bit better off now that there's one less child-molesting pervert roaming the streets.
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So how long before the family of the deceased starts raising a stink about racism and files a wrongful death suit with the backing and support of the US DOJ?
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So how long before the family of the deceased starts raising a stink about racism and files a wrongful death suit with the backing and support of the US DOJ?
Do you really think the USDOJ would pick this case to raise a stink about before a Presidential Election?  "Obama's DOJ Sues Man Who Killed Child Molester" is not a good headline and wouldn't generate too much sympathy.
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So how long before the family of the deceased starts raising a stink about racism and files a wrongful death suit with the backing and support of the US DOJ?

What possible connection to racism could this case have???  I'm curious as to why that would even be brought up.
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What possible connection to racism could this case have???  I'm curious as to why that would even be brought up.

We could propose a genetic cause for buggery, then make pedophobia the new racism.

No, wait; nothing like that would ever be taken seriously.
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Before this one completely heads off the rails.  Oh Looky, a fork !!!
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