United States of Canada and Jesusland

[WLJ]

Let's do it.
A sizeable portion of Canada should be red though

Conservatives seem OK with the country splitting into the United States of Canada and Jesusland
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2020/12/10/conservatives-seem-ok-with-the-country-splitting-into-the-united-states-of-canada-and-jesusland/

[Ben]

That would actually make more sense for the commie states that want to split vs becoming their own countries. Though I'm pretty sure Canada wouldn't want the burden.

[bedlamite]

WI and IL would have problems with that, both states have blue cities, while the rest of the state is red.

[kgbsquirrel]

There's no way in hell Alberta et alii are throwing in with California.  Whoever made that has no clue about Canadian politics.

[cordex]

WI and IL would have problems with that, both states have blue cities, while the rest of the state is red.

Isn’t this true of most states?

[Ron]

Isn’t this true of most states?

Are you suggesting we lay siege to the cities and starve them?

Your ideas are intriguing ... 

[zxcvbob]

I'd be fine with it, as long as I get a chance to move out of MN before it takes affect. 

But like IL and WI, much of this state is Republican.  The twin cities are Democrat strongholds and pretty much that's it, although Rochester has imported enough Somalis and Chicagoans in the past few years to turn it blue.  Not sure about Duluth.

[Angel Eyes]

Colorado is not red, as much as I wish it were.

[Nick1911]

The name "Jesusland" is an insult to conservatives, implying they want some kind of theocracy instead of a free state.

We would lose a substantial amount of our GDP with the loss of the states suggested.

Also, I don't think anyone consulted with Canada about this plan.

Related: What do you think of the 1981 "The Nine Nations of North America", another attempt at redrawing north america along cultural lines?  Was it true in 1981, and how has it fared 30 years later?

[MillCreek]

I can understand the Left Coast, but all of New England?

[Boomhauer]

Don’t throw me in that briar patch...

[kgbsquirrel]

The name "Jesusland" is an insult to conservatives, implying they want some kind of theocracy instead of a free state.

We would lose a substantial amount of our GDP with the loss of the states suggested.

Also, I don't think anyone consulted with Canada about this plan.

Related: What do you think of the 1981 "The Nine Nations of North America", another attempt at redrawing north america along cultural lines?  Was it true in 1981, and how has it fared 30 years later?

Well since those states produce the bulk of the nations food and energy I'm sure their GDP's can be made up for in sales to the liberal hellholes at suitably marked up premiums.

[Boomhauer]

Well since those states produce the bulk of the nations food and energy I'm sure their GDP's can be made up for in sales to the liberal hellholes at suitably marked up premiums.

Let’s only sell them just enough food to make it exactly like their favored “but it’s not real socialism” hell holes. 

[Ben]

I would submit that you can't lump everyone into the "armchair warrior" category. I believe there are vast numbers of people who simply haven't reached the "cross the line" point yet.

People have to get to a point where both losing the carrots (e.g., trips to Costco, Amazon deliveries, 401Ks) and accepting the sticks (e.g., lost jobs, lost homes, Attorney fees, jail time, taking a bullet) are less bad than giving up the life you knew.

While not in the military, I also took a sworn oath to the Constitution, which I consider a lifetime promise. I struggle with "the line" and how to respond, whether it's accepting things and laying low; clandestine insurrection like breaking laws (taxes, environmental laws, and similar), or picking up a rifle. So far it's been mostly  the first and a little of the second.

[Ron]

I would submit that you can't lump everyone into the "armchair warrior" category. I believe there are vast numbers of people who simply haven't reached the "cross the line" point yet.

Well I certainly wasn't referencing anyone here. There are other places I visit where the rhetoric is heated, but in reality there is no enemy for them to confront with arms.

There have been decades of propaganda, the spiritual, philosophical and moral hollowing out of the culture and people by design. The march through our institutions has left the country ripe for color revolution.

The globalists bought all of our institutions fair and square.

When you sell your birthright for a bowl of gruel you have no right to complain.

They will keep us older "right wing" gun owners sidelined. Our 401k's, Social Security and health insurance will still be around for the next dozen or two trips around the sun. There really won't be any reason to fight other than nostalgia for what (never really) was.

I'd be pleased to be wrong but as long as the gravy train is running folks aren't going to rise up.

[Ben]

Well I certainly wasn't referencing anyone here. There are other places I visit where the rhetoric is heated, but in reality there is no enemy for them to confront with arms.

I didn't think you or anyone else was. :)

I just wanted to emphasize that there are more than "armchair warriors" out there, and it may be a pretty large population of people that just haven't hit "enough is enough". Though I believe we're getting closer to that than any time that I have been alive. There are more and more people out there that simply hate me for my gender, skin color, and personal philosophy.

As an example, here's a recent letter to the editor, once again from the liberal rag of my old home in Santa Barbara. The letter writer is an actor who played a role in Star Trek TOS (Bread and Circuses) that ironically mirrors his "death to Republicans" thesis.

https://www.independent.com/2020/12/11/the-un-united-states/

Edit: and my "armchair warrior" response should have gone in the "Texas sues" thread, where armchair warriors came up. Once again, I'm posting before I'm fully awake. Or else I blame still being infected with the CCP bioweapon. 

[Ron]

Edit: and my "armchair warrior" response should have gone in the "Texas sues" thread, where armchair warriors came up. Once again, I'm posting before I'm fully awake. Or else I blame still being infected with the CCP bioweapon.  

I was surprised after I posted that that we weren't in that thread 

[kgbsquirrel]

Let’s only sell them just enough food to make it exactly like their favored “but it’s not real socialism” hell holes. 

Venezuela was down to 900 calories per person per day at one point.  Prisoners of the Nazis in Auschwitz received 1,300. 

Socialism: Less food than a Nazi death camp.

[WLJ]

Venezuela was down to 900 calories per person per day at one point.  Prisoners of the Nazis in Auschwitz received 1,300.  

Socialism: Less food than a Nazi death camp.

Nazi = Socialist
Where people get confused on that is because nowadays "right think" is that extreme nationalism can only equal capitalism which is total BS. Nazism and communism are two sides of the same coin being two flavors of socialism