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Man charged in student's dragging death
« on: December 01, 2007, 02:19:51 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071201/ap_on_re_us/dragging_death

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NEWPORT, Wash. - A man accused of tying a rope around the neck of a college student who was strangled while being dragged 13 miles behind a pickup truck has been charged in the student's death.

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Deputy Prosecutor Tony Koures said Thursday he filed documents that charge Wendell C. Sinn Jr., 45, with second-degree murder in the Saturday death of Jerid Sturman-Camyn. Jurors would also have the option of convicting Sinn of first-degree manslaughter.

A message left Thursday night with Sinn's lawyer, John P. Nollette, was not immediately returned. Nollette has said his client acted in self-defense and to protect others at a northeastern Washington hunting camp where witnesses said Sturman-Camyn became violent and out of control.

Court documents allege that Sinn, of Newman Lake, placed a noose around Sturman-Camyn's neck when he was distracted and attached the rope to the truck's trailer hitch. Sinn yelled to his 17-year-old son, Justin D. Sinn, to drive away, the documents allege.

Sheriff's Deputy Tony Ingram said in an affidavit that the younger Sinn apparently was not aware he was dragging Sturman-Camyn, a 20-year-old Eastern Washington University student, when he sped away.

But Koures said Wednesday that made no sense, in part because the youth presumably saw Sturman-Camyn being roped. No charges have been filed against Justin Sinn.

Wendell Sinn remained free on $100,000 bail Thursday. A message left at the Sinn family home was not immediately returned.



WTH?



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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2007, 03:08:54 AM »
Really looks like 1st degree murder to me. It takes a bit of thought to go get a rope, tie it around someones neck, tie it to a trailer hitch and then tell someone to drive away. Hard to believe his spawn had no idea he was dragging someone to their death also.

Seems like the bail should have been much higher. This guy is evil.
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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2007, 03:39:32 AM »
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Nollette has said his client acted in self-defense and to protect others at a northeastern Washington hunting camp where witnesses said Sturman-Camyn became violent and out of control.

Why didn't they just restrain him and call the police?




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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2007, 05:31:27 AM »
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Nollette has said his client acted in self-defense and to protect others at a northeastern Washington hunting camp where witnesses said Sturman-Camyn became violent and out of control.

Why didn't they just restrain him and call the police?

Yeah, 13 miles of dragging is a bit excessive.
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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2007, 05:41:38 AM »
 my sympathy goes to the families and involved.

13 miles has to be a misprint. i wonder how violent his behavior was that this was felt to be necessary.



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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2007, 05:59:37 AM »
just found this, it has a little more detail.

http://www.spokesmanreview.com/breaking/story.asp?ID=12535

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Dragging victim 'out of control,' official says
Father-son playful fight reportedly turned violent
John Craig
Staff writer
November 28, 2007

Authorities say a martial arts enthusiast who was dragged to death Saturday in Pend Oreille County "just snapped and was completely out of control" before he was killed, according to witnesses.


Pend Oreille County sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Alan Botzheim said witnesses reported 20-year-old Jerid S. Sturman-Camyn had been drinking heavily along with his father, Jerry "Scott" Camyn, when the two engaged in a playful fight that got out of hand at a hunting camp near Ione, Wash.

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Newman Lake resident Wendell C. Sinn Jr. allegedly placed a noose around Jerid Sturman-Camyn's neck and attached the other end of the 22-foot rope to the trailer hitch of a pickup after Sturman-Camyn threatened Sinn's son and others with an ax.


Botzheim said Sinn had told his son, 17-year-old Justin Daniel Sinn, to get in their Ford F-250 pickup and be prepared to leave. Justin Sinn didn't know he was dragging Sturman-Camyn by the neck when his father told him to drive away, Botzheim said.


He dragged Sturman-Camyn nearly 13 miles before stopping about a mile north of the Kalispel Indian Reservation on LeClerc Road.


The incident involved two groups from Spokane Valley and the Newman Lake area who were hunting deer. The groups, camped about two miles apart, consisted of two father-and-son combinations.


Jerry Camyn and his son, Jerid, were camped with Kelly F. Cuzzetto and his son, 17-year-old Kurt Thomas Cuzzetto, and the Sinns were camped with Kerry E. Torske and his son, Dillon. An exchange of text messages between Kurt Cuzzetto and his friend Justin Sinn reportedly prompted everyone in the Camyn-Cuzzetto camp to go to the Sinn-Torske camp for a visit.


Witnesses said Camyn and his son had been drinking before they went to the other camp, where they continued to drink beer and hard liquor, Botzheim said. Sheriff Jerry Weeks said a field test indicated Wendell Sinn had very little to drink and his son and the other teenagers hadn't been drinking.


Botzheim said Camyn and his son wrestled, separated and then resumed what had been a playful confrontation. "And pretty soon it wasn't playful anymore," he said.


Witnesses said they calmed Sturman-Camyn, but his father "would get him agitated again."


Eventually, Botzheim said, Wendell Sinn fired a black-powder rifle in an effort to separate the combatants. But Sturman-Camyn pulled the muzzle of the single-shot weapon to his chest and challenged Sinn to shoot him, witnesses told investigators.


At least one witness said Sturman-Camyn charged at Justin Sinn and others with the ax, and some of the teenagers hid in the woods, Botzheim said.


"We'll drag you out of here," Sinn allegedly told Sturman-Camyn, in an effort to scare him into leaving.


But Sturman-Camyn's response was to say, "I'll take that rope and choke you with it," Botzheim said.


He said Sinn slipped a noose around Sturman-Camyn's neck when members of Sturman-Camyn's group went to their all-terrain vehicles and he turned his back to see what they were doing.


Deputy Prosecutor Tony Koures plans to charge Wendell Sinn with second-degree murder and, as an alternative, first-degree manslaughter.


Botzheim said Justin Sinn "was scared to death" and "had no idea" he was dragging Sturman-Camyn when he drove away. Sinn called 911 on his cell phone about 11:35 p.m. to report he had been chased by someone with an ax, and Kurt Cuzzetto called about 11:40 p.m. to report someone was being dragged.


Authorities said Cuzzetto chased Sinn's truck with a four-wheel all-terrain vehicle, but couldn't keep up. Sinn stopped when an emergency dispatcher told him to wait for an approaching deputy.


Relatives of Jerid Sturman-Camyn issued a statement Tuesday saying they hope justice will be done for the "big-hearted kid" who had five younger brothers and sisters.


"The outpouring of support by his many friends and the community attest to his character," the statement reads. "Jerid's passing has left a huge hole in the hearts of many."


The aunt listed as a family contact would not comment on the events that led to Saturday's death.

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http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2007/nov/26/klahowya-grad-was-a-145fierce-competitor-with-a/

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The Seabeck native was studying civil engineering at Eastern Washington University in Cheney and had been training at the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu club of Spokane for about eight months. He'd recently won a light heavyweight title in an Ultimate Fighting Champion competition, and he was preparing to defend the title Saturday, according to the club's Web site

it sounds like he was taunted into a rage that made others fear for their life. if it had been a firearm we might argue self defense, but a rope just seems...........
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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2007, 06:21:23 AM »
How does one manage to slip a noose around the neck of a martial arts enthusiast...
...who is enraged...
...and is wielding an ax...
...and who threatens to choke you with the rope you intend to drag him with???
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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2007, 06:23:10 AM »
How does one manage to slip a noose around the neck of a martial arts enthusiast...
...who is enraged...
...and is wielding an ax...
...and who threatens to choke you with the rope you intend to drag him with???

Exactly. And while I get they only had muzzleloaders.......

that's probably at least a .50 cal slug, and the kid apparently put the muzzle to his chest? Soooo, pull the trigger.
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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2007, 04:17:34 PM »
they said he fired the rifle, did he reload it? 

Whose camp was this they were at?  I got confused on the names. 

I guess I can see if the kid was in the truck wanting to leave and his father tied the rope without him seeing.  The facts do sort of back up his not knowing.  It was at night also I presume. 

However, if the son is not guilty, would the father be charged? 
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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2007, 04:32:06 PM »
they said he fired the rifle, did he reload it? 

However, if the son is not guilty, would the father be charged? 

That would explain the charge of manslaughter against the father.
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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2007, 04:43:52 PM »
cases like this are why i don't stay where booze and drugs mix with firearms

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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2007, 09:38:31 PM »
1) I'm guessing it wasn't a "noose." Instead, I'll bet the critter lassooed the critter.

2) I'm thinking that the critter driving probably shouldn't have been behind the wheel.

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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2007, 08:24:03 AM »
I don't think jail time is appropriate for societal degenerates like these two. The son knew what he was doing. You'd have to have an IQ of 8 to not understand the import of dragging someone behind a vehicle.

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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2007, 08:27:41 AM »
cases like this are why i don't stay where booze and drugs mix with firearms

I've drank plenty on fishing and camping trips while wearing a piece on my waist, and have never endangered anyone else nor myself.

No, this explains more about the personalities of the morons involved than anything else.  This whole thing could have certainly been resolved without dragging the kid to death. 
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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2007, 10:49:20 AM »
The guys dad was there and did nothing other than start a fight with his own son, continue to antagonize him and watch him drag?Huh?

I have to believe there is a lot more to this story than they are communicating.  It is a sad state of affairs.

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Re: Man charged in student's dragging death
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2007, 11:51:17 AM »
cases like this are why i don't stay where booze and drugs mix with firearms

I've drank plenty on fishing and camping trips while wearing a piece on my waist, and have never endangered anyone else nor myself.

No, this explains more about the personalities of the morons involved than anything else.  This whole thing could have certainly been resolved without dragging the kid to death. 

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