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Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« on: May 19, 2010, 01:22:37 AM »

http://www.azcc.gov/commissioners/Pierce/Documents/5-18-10.pdf

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  Dear Mayor Villaraigosa,

    I was dismayed to learn that the Los Angeles City Council voted to boycott Arizona and Arizona-based companies — a vote you strongly supported — to show opposition to SB 1070 (Support our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhoods Act).

    You explained your support of the boycott as follows: “While we recognize that as neighbors, we share resources and ties with the State of Arizona that may be difficult to sever, our goal is not to hurt the local economy of Los Angeles, but to impact the economy of Arizona.  Our intent is to use our dollars — or the withholding of our dollars — to send a message.” (emphasis added)

    I received your message; please receive mine.  As a state-wide elected member of the Arizona Corporation Commission overseeing Arizona’s electric and water utilities, I too am keenly aware of the “resources and ties” we share with the City of Los Angeles. In fact, approximately twenty-five percent of the electricity consumed in Los Angeles is generated by power plants in Arizona.

    If an economic boycott is truly what you desire, I will be happy to encourage Arizona utilities to renegotiate your power agreements so Los Angeles no longer receives any power from Arizona-based generation. I am confident that Arizona’s utilities would be happy to take those electrons off your hands. If, however, you find that the City Council lacks the strength of its convictions to turn off the lights in Los Angeles and boycott Arizona power, please reconsider the wisdom of attempting to harm Arizona’s economy.

    People of goodwill can disagree over the merits of SB 1070. A state-wide economic boycott of Arizona is not a message sent in goodwill.

    Sincerely,

    Commissioner Gary Pierce


Gee, who thought that threatening the folks who supplied you with 25% of your power grid, plenty of tourist dollars, etc would be a bad idea?   Way to go, LA!

Wish my state had utility commissioners with a sense of humor.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2010, 01:42:39 AM »
WOOHOO! That's awesome, truly.

That's just.... "Your move, sir!" =D
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 01:48:01 AM »
Can Arizona legally do that?  As I understand it, it's usually illegal for a gas company to shut off service to a residence when it's 20 below outdoors.  Could there be similar laws at this level?
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 01:51:21 AM »
Quote from: fistful on May 19, 2010, 01:48:01 AM
Can Arizona legally do that?  As I understand it, it's usually illegal for a gas company to shut off service to a residence when it's 20 below outdoors.  Could there be similar laws at this level?

Doesn't often get below 20 degrees in LA...particularly during this time of year.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 02:11:16 AM »
Quote from: fistful on May 19, 2010, 01:48:01 AM
Can Arizona legally do that?  As I understand it, it's usually illegal for a gas company to shut off service to a residence when it's 20 below outdoors.  Could there be similar laws at this level?

Uh-huh, and a law in CA matters to AZ... why, exactly? :)
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 02:19:50 AM »
It would be very cool if AZ did stop selling power to CA, but I think we all know that is not going to happen.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 02:24:54 AM »
I'd wish they'd do it for just one day......when it's like over 100F in LA.... >:D >:D >:D >:D

Oh, and shut off the water (Colorado River) too......
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2010, 02:56:59 AM »
Quote from: scout26 on May 19, 2010, 02:24:54 AM
Oh, and shut off the water (Colorado River) too......

They probably couldn't get away with shutting off the water.  Water rights in the West is...complicated, to say the least, and usually favors those downstream over those upstream. 
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2010, 08:22:30 AM »
Quote from: scout26 on May 19, 2010, 02:24:54 AM
I'd wish they'd do it for just one day......when it's like over 100F in LA.... >:D >:D >:D >:D

Oh, and shut off the water (Colorado River) too......

Naaa.  The nooz would be full of stories of old folks keeling over dead from the heat.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2010, 08:29:10 AM »
Obama would be all over the AZCC like stink on scat for some sort of "Interstate Commerce" issue if they even fluctuated CA power rates by a hundredth of a percent over this issue.  Let alone actually cut power transfer on the grid.

It's a good stinging letter... but it has no teeth.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2010, 09:38:34 AM »
I don't think they would shut off the utilities, but they would probably cooperate fully in renegotiating or terminating the contracts.  Either that, or they would demand a lump sum to terminate the long term contracts.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2010, 09:56:01 AM »
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Obama would be all over the AZCC like stink on scat for some sort of "Interstate Commerce" issue if they even fluctuated CA power rates by a hundredth of a percent over this issue.  Let alone actually cut power transfer on the grid.

It's a good stinging letter... but it has no teeth.

Don't bet on it!
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2010, 10:01:54 AM »
What if AZ power triples the rate for LA?
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2010, 10:54:35 AM »
Be a shame if someone accidentally took out a tower or two...
 
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2010, 11:09:50 AM »
We have a child-mayor, what can I tell you?
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2010, 11:30:04 AM »
Quote from: AZRedhawk44 on May 19, 2010, 08:29:10 AM
Obama would be all over the AZCC like stink on scat for some sort of "Interstate Commerce" issue if they even fluctuated CA power rates by a hundredth of a percent over this issue.  Let alone actually cut power transfer on the grid.

It's a good stinging letter... but it has no teeth.

Actually, I'm thinking that the city of Los Angeles has wrapped itself up in a major Interstate Commerce faux pas of Constitutional dimensions.  Seems to me the Mayor has clearly stated the intent to mess with the economy of the soverign State of Arizona.  Start with this http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec10.html , then this http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A4Sec4.html , and then this http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am5.html .

Round up the National Guard and the attorneys.  March the first group westward to arrest Hizzoner and assorted minions while the second group wends their way eastwards to the Supreme Court with petitions in hand.  In the meantime, keep a very accurate audit of the difference between income from sources in LA prior to and post boycott announcement.  Add any other dip in revenues from any and all sources as collateral damage directly related to LA's actions.  Be sure to include the extra expense of auditing, which was directly caused by LA's boycott move.

Wish they had the fortitude to move on it.

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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2010, 11:33:03 AM »
I'm pretty sure the National Guard of one state marching on another state in force would overshadow the economic wrangling between said states.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2010, 12:22:21 PM »
How about when the AZ LEO finds an illegal, give them the choice of being returned to their home country, or a bus ticket to LA?
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2010, 02:09:43 PM »
Quote from: fistful on May 19, 2010, 01:48:01 AM
Can Arizona legally do that?  As I understand it, it's usually illegal for a gas company to shut off service to a residence when it's 20 below outdoors.  Could there be similar laws at this level?

Can the fed.gov "legally" ignore their own immigration laws?

(shrug)

Guess so.

Interesting times indeed. Has there ever been a period with as much inter-state and state/fed.gov acrimony since the buildup to the Civil War?
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2010, 02:19:36 PM »
Quote from: AJ Dual on May 19, 2010, 02:09:43 PM
Can the fed.gov "legally" ignore their own immigration laws?
Fed.gov routinely ignores the Constitution, doesn't it?
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2010, 03:17:58 PM »
Quote from: Desertdog on May 19, 2010, 12:22:21 PM
How about when the AZ LEO finds an illegal, give them the choice of being returned to their home country, or a bus ticket to LA?

That's actually a pretty good idea  =D
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2010, 03:46:51 PM »
That was amazing. Almost makes me wish I still lived in AZ.
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2010, 06:39:00 PM »
Isn't it unconstitutional for states to engage in trade wars?
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2010, 09:09:30 PM »
Villaraigosa had a crony underling spokesman make a brief response to the letter:

Quote from: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/19/arizona-official-threatens-cut-los-angeles-power-payback-boycott/
"We're not going to respond to threats from a state which has isolated itself from the America that values freedom, liberty and basic human rights."
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Re: Arizona demonstrates the proper technique of a pimp slap
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2010, 09:28:20 PM »
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"We're not going to respond to threats from a state which has isolated itself from the America that values freedom, liberty and basic human rights."

Then what is the above statement?

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