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Title: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: WLJ on January 05, 2021, 09:34:03 AM
Ian looks into R.L.Wilson and his corrupt dealings with the Connecticut State Library museum and others. Be willing to bet this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Far too complex to nutshell here so grab a cup of coffee but you may want to keep the bourbon handy.
It's a little under 30 minutes long

True Crime Collector Skulduggery: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nhUpPbqD44
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 05, 2021, 12:41:24 PM
Fascinating, and disappointing. I visited that collection a number of years ago. It was very impressive -- and I was there after this all went down, so I guess the collection was even more impressive before I saw it.
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: WLJ on January 05, 2021, 08:50:16 PM
Listening to a C&Rsenal patreon podcast right now that is 2 hours long. Far more detail
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: Hawkmoon on January 05, 2021, 09:14:11 PM
Internet search results:

https://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-xpm-2006-03-26-0603260031-story.html

https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/new-charges-brought-against-r-l-wilson.209823/
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: WLJ on January 05, 2021, 09:25:24 PM
Not even half way through the podcast and my head is spinning at all the ins and outs. Quite revealing in the often hidden dealings in the big money gun collecting world.
Not sure yet if there is a non patreon way of listening to this.

Wow, now there's a love triangle mixed in with the dealings.
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: K Frame on January 06, 2021, 07:04:21 AM
There were serious concerns about Wilson's ethics and dealings among staff when I was working for American Rifleman in the early 1990s.
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: Devonai on January 06, 2021, 08:40:15 PM
I didn't live in Connecticut as an adult until 2007, though I did live here from birth until 1982, then again from '86-'87.  So this entire story missed my notice.  Fascinating stuff.

The only genuine Colts I ever owned were an Official Police, 4" .38 SPC, and an AR-15A2 (as was marked on the receiver).  The revolver was about as collectible as pocket lint, but I still regret selling it.  The AR was sold for a $1200 profit during the AWB.  I have fewer regrets about that, although in Connecticut now it would be worth a small fortune.
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: WLJ on January 06, 2021, 08:52:11 PM
although in Connecticut now it would be worth a small fortune.

Coming soon to a country near you.
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: Devonai on January 09, 2021, 11:04:47 AM
Coming soon to a country near you.

I can still buy an AR by virtue of my military service, though that status does little to diminish the magazine restrictions in this state. Against all reason I'm still holding out hope for a SCOTUS ruling to slap the wrists of our legislature.
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: TommyGunn on January 09, 2021, 03:15:15 PM
I can still buy an AR by virtue of my military service, though that status does little to diminish the magazine restrictions in this state. Against all reason I'm still holding out hope for a SCOTUS ruling to slap the wrists of our legislature.

Well, keep in mind that one good thing came from "Heller vs. D. C.,"  a statement that the Second Amendment does protect modern firearms.  

Beyond that ,  a hope and a prayer,  I can't offer much more reassurance ..... =|
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 09, 2021, 07:03:04 PM
Well, keep in mind that one good thing came from "Heller vs. D. C.,"  a statement that the Second Amendment does protect modern firearms.  

Beyond that ,  a hope and a prayer,  I can't offer much more reassurance ..... =|

Going by the recent history of the SCOTUS when a challenge to a draconian gun ban finally get to them they just deny cert based on some BS technicality. That way they won't have to take the correct position or overturn a recent ruling.
 :mad:
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: TommyGunn on January 09, 2021, 11:26:52 PM
Going by the recent history of the SCOTUS when a challenge to a draconian gun ban finally get to them they just deny cert based on some BS technicality. That way they won't have to take the correct position or overturn a recent ruling.
 :mad:

Yea,  that certainly could happen.    I'm not so sure I want to borrow that kind of trouble at this point. 
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: WLJ on May 11, 2021, 10:40:32 AM
C&Rsenal uploaded their podcast to youtube  on the subject.

Unloaded 30: Manufacturing Colt's History, the R.L. Wilson years
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq8yHzNF3DM
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: Ben on May 11, 2021, 10:50:53 AM
I can still buy an AR by virtue of my military service, though that status does little to diminish the magazine restrictions in this state. Against all reason I'm still holding out hope for a SCOTUS ruling to slap the wrists of our legislature.

Interesting. How does that work? Would you just order an AR from out of state and ship to your FFL, do proof of ID, etc., or do they actually still let FFLs in-state keep ARs in stock?

I've seen the "cops can still get stuff" stuff back  in CA, but IIRC, there weren't any military exemptions for private ownership. I could be wrong on that.
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: Devonai on May 11, 2021, 06:17:50 PM
I've not inquired with any seriousness, but the few times I did the answer was "we've got stuff in the back you can look at."
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: Fly320s on May 11, 2021, 08:31:19 PM
I can still buy an AR by virtue of my military service, though that status does little to diminish the magazine restrictions in this state. Against all reason I'm still holding out hope for a SCOTUS ruling to slap the wrists of our legislature.

You can buy a "firearm" in CT.  Basically, it is a long-barreled AR pistol, with a VFG, and a pistol brace instead of a stock.  It looks and functions like a banned assault weapon, but it is a "firearm" by CT's laws.  Loophole for the win.

As for magazines, NH isn't far away.  Cash and carry.
Title: Re: R.L. Wilson and the "Trade of the Century"
Post by: Hawkmoon on May 12, 2021, 12:31:32 AM
You can buy a "firearm" in CT.  Basically, it is a long-barreled AR pistol, with a VFG, and a pistol brace instead of a stock.  It looks and functions like a banned assault weapon, but it is a "firearm" by CT's laws.  Loophole for the win.

As for magazines, NH isn't far away.  Cash and carry.

But Connecticut has a magazine capacity limit of 10 rounds. Connecticut residents can't buy magazines holding more than 10 rounds for anything. Sure, they can buy them in NH -- but as soon as they cross into Connecticut with it/them, they become instant felons.