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NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« on: February 28, 2009, 10:05:58 AM »
My New Gun
BATHSHEBA MONK
Published: February 25, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/01/magazine/01lives-t.html?_r=1

Back in late September, when my bank stocks began to tank — slowly, then all at once, as Hemingway described going broke — another wall in my life began to crack, as rumors of break-ins rattled my peaceful neighborhood in Allentown, Pa. The first indication that something was going on was the Crime Watch sign that suddenly appeared on the utility pole a block from my house.

To see what was happening, my husband and I attended a neighborhood-watch meeting in October at the nearby Christian and Missionary Alliance Church, where people suggested that crime was moving into our beautiful old neighborhood because the police were putting the squeeze on criminal activity downtown. A former city councilwoman sobbed as she told us how her home was broken into while she slept. An elderly man described how thieves ransacked his house in broad daylight. Some people were roving around different areas, stripping cars, the police liaison there told us, but evidently our stretched department could spare only three squad cars for the whole West End. We left feeling as if we’d have to batten down the hatches while the police tried to make it so uncomfortable for the drug gangs downtown that they’d move on. We signed up to be informed of future meetings and took the card of a local locksmith.

We live in a big old house with an open back porch and a three-tiered yard with trees. A year ago, I loved the fact that we were so open, that neighborhood kids and animals could play and hide here. But after that meeting, I began to see access points, places where we were vulnerable. “We have five doors,” I told my husband. “And the windows are a joke. The cat knows how to open them.”

Meanwhile, the financial news kept getting bleaker. A lawyer friend’s real estate and bankruptcy practice morphed into a plain bankruptcy practice. I’d always heard that crime increases when the economy goes down, and I found myself thinking of some of my grandparents’ stories about the Great Depression: people breaking the law out of desperation.

A friend told us to consider buying a gun to protect ourselves. The idea didn’t thrill me. I’d fired an M-16 when I was in the Army years ago, could take it apart and put it back together in the dark, and my experience with firearms, and what they’re meant to do, made me wary.

Still, I couldn’t get the idea out of my head, and a few weeks later I called my friend Jimmy, a gun enthusiast, and asked him to take me along to a firing range “just to see.” He brought two handguns, each in a locked metal box, and showed me how to use them. The noise in the indoor range was frightening, even though I was wearing the same ear protectors as construction workers using jackhammers. But more unnerving were the other shooters. The man in the adjacent booth had set his target at 15 feet and was firing with a coolness and precision that chilled me. Two punk-styled boys put up their own targets, life-size blowups of a man and a woman. It was like going to get your driver’s license and taking a good look at the people you were going to share the road with.

“You might as well get used to a .38,” Jimmy said. “A .22 is lighter, but you can’t really stop anything with it. You want to make a nice big hole.”

A few weeks ago, my husband went away on business, and after two sleepless nights starting every time the old steam radiators knocked, I finally decided I wanted protection.

Jimmy took me to the Army-Navy Store on Grape Street. It was 11 o’clock on Sunday morning, and 15 normal-looking — I was relieved to see — people were leaning on the gun counter at the back of the store. Jimmy explained the differences between the Glocks, semiautomatics with magazines, and the Smith & Wesson revolvers with six bullet chambers. The clerk told us a lot of handguns were out of stock; arms sales around the country have been increasing in inverse proportion to the collapsing economy and in response to the unsubstantiated buzz that the new administration is going to tighten gun control.

“You want a revolver, to start,” Jimmy said. I pointed to a dull pink Charter Arms revolver with a two-inch barrel: the Pink Lady. It looked like a toy. Jimmy laughed. “You don’t want a pink gun.”

I watched the woman at the counter next to me test the feel of several Glocks while the young girl with her thumbed an electronic game. Then finally I picked out a Smith & Wesson .357 Magnum, “the gun I started with,” the clerk said. I handed him my driver’s license and filled out the paperwork. He left us to run my license number through a criminal-records system called QuickCheck. Two minutes later I was qualified and, between gun and ammo, $762 poorer. The revolver I bought has a black handle and a four-inch stainless-steel barrel. There’s nothing pink about it.

Bathsheba Monk is the author of “Now You See It . . . Stories From Cokesville, Pa.”
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2009, 10:20:21 AM »
no pink guns!  what is the world coming to?


it's good to see the beginning of a new tide....
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 10:21:52 AM »
Hopefully her next story is about how she went and got some training.  Like an NRA pistol, home firearm safety, or personal safety in the home class or even just going to the range with Jimmy to get practice with her new firearm.
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 10:33:09 AM »

Hopefully her next story is about how she went and got some training.  Like an NRA pistol, home firearm safety, or personal safety in the home class or even just going to the range with Jimmy to get practice with her new firearm.


We can but hope. Judging by this - "The man in the adjacent booth had set his target at 15 feet and was firing with a coolness and precision that chilled me." - she may be the type to lock it away and hope she never has to use it. If she ever does need it, and the goblin gives her time to get to it, she'll close her eyes and bang away, hitting everything but the bad guy. Which might do the job, but still...
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2009, 10:40:50 AM »
anyone near Allentown wanna give her a hand?
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 11:37:40 AM »
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2009, 11:45:23 AM »
Hyperbole.. it's what's for news these days.
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2009, 11:54:09 AM »
Hopefully her next story is about how she went and got some training.  Like an NRA pistol, home firearm safety, or personal safety in the home class or even just going to the range with Jimmy to get practice with her new firearm.

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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2009, 12:08:05 PM »
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It was like going to get your driver’s license and taking a good look at the people you were going to share the road with.

Some people would just greatly prefer to have their own roads: that's all.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2009, 12:38:47 PM »
Some people would just greatly prefer to have their own roads: that's all.

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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 02:04:50 PM »
If her steam radiators are knocking she needs someone to come in an address the slope problem.


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Hum... I wonder if she was in the Israeli Army...
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 04:06:17 PM »
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“You want a revolver, to start,” Jimmy said. I pointed to a dull pink Charter Arms revolver with a two-inch barrel: the Pink Lady. It looked like a toy. Jimmy laughed. “You don’t want a pink gun.”

<BAAAAANT!>

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Two minutes later I was qualified and, between gun and ammo, $762 poorer. The revolver I bought has a black handle and a four-inch stainless-steel barrel. There’s nothing pink about it.

That's more like it.  Now go get some training and practice.

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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 04:46:28 PM »
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Army didn't teach her nothing 'bout shootin', did it? 


I thought the Army didn't do much with firearms training outside of the Combat arms? 
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2009, 08:04:00 PM »
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Army didn't teach her nothing 'bout shootin', did it? 

Yeah, that gets me, too.

Sorry, if you're doing standard pistol slow fire at 15 yards and aren't being calm and precise and getting a decently tight group, you're doing it wrong.

This is the sort I worry about, because if they don't get training, I expect them to be the kind that screams and holds a gun out shakily like a magic talisman...which the bad guy will promptly step in and slap away.

Standoff at a distance, draw, aim, command voice. Right on top of you, need to have the skill and the determination to draw, aim and fire just like that, with consideration of your backstop as well.

I don't want training to be mandated or anything, but I really wish people would get some...

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2009, 08:32:53 PM »
Depends on when and what she did in the Army (and which Army).....

Given the fact that she's a she, she probably was in a REMF unit that only did the bare minimum to meet AR350-1 requirements, ie. Qualify once a year with your issued weapon.  Which in her case means she probably fired maybe 49 rounds per year (9 to zero and then 40 to qualify).
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2009, 09:37:43 PM »
anyone near Allentown wanna give her a hand?

I am, but I wouldn't call myself skilled enough with a revolver to be the best instructor.  Rifles, sure. 

I will be sure to try to hunt down her email to tell her to get a PA LTCF, it's dirt cheap and good for five years.
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2009, 09:46:56 PM »
I just hope practice with .38 special first. Full .357 magnum loads can really put someone off and give them a permanent flinch if that's what they shoot first.

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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2009, 09:53:00 PM »
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The Army didn't teach her much about guns, did it?
I thought the Army didn't do much with firearms training outside of the Combat arms? 

That doesn't even enter into it.  If the shooter's cool precision chilled her, she doesn't get the first clue about shooting, and her drill sergeants should either be publicly horse-whipped, or given medals for putting up with her.   :O
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2009, 10:06:03 PM »
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anyone near Allentown wanna give her a hand?


I am, but I wouldn't call myself skilled enough with a revolver to be the best instructor.  Rifles, sure. 

I will be sure to try to hunt down her email to tell her to get a PA LTCF, it's dirt cheap and good for five years.

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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2009, 10:10:54 PM »
I just hope practice with .38 special first. Full .357 magnum loads can really put someone off and give them a permanent flinch if that's what they shoot first.

.357 loads can be a handful and loud...

Revolvers ain't very easy to shoot, either. It took me a moderate amount of practice to begin to shoot double action accurately, and a moderate amount of dryfire. My guess is this woman will not do either, as will the majority of women who buy those snubbies with pink grips...just because it's pink and small does not mean it is suitable...

I actually had a pawnshop tell me that you didn't need anything more than a snubby because more than 30 feet is not considered self defense. This was while Mom and I were shopping for her a general purpose medium size gun for woods carry. A .357 revolver like a Ruger Security Six, GP-100, or one of the medium size S&W's would have been good, as well as something like a S&W M&P...she ended up getting a clean Ruger Security Six used for a good price, and I like it a lot.





 



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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2009, 10:23:31 PM »
.357 loads can be a handful and loud...

Revolvers ain't very easy to shoot, either. It took me a moderate amount of practice to begin to shoot double action accurately, and a moderate amount of dryfire. My guess is this woman will not do either, as will the majority of women who buy those snubbies with pink grips...just because it's pink and small does not mean it is suitable...

Two words that help, but are not a substitute for practice, obviously.

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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2009, 07:01:44 AM »
Two words that help, but are not a substitute for practice, obviously.

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i agree, perfect aim will not help a poor trigger pull. if there was one thing i criticized about my ny permit it was that, with all the crap i had to go through, there was no training required.


with the amount of criticism here, i am surprised there are any newby's to the gun world.  i was just happy to see anything about a person choosing a gun for self defense in a ny rag.   that, to me, is a really big deal.
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Re: NY times weekend magazine: My new gun
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2009, 09:49:04 AM »
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Army didn't teach her nothing 'bout shootin', did it

Shooting?  In Zahal?

Are you serious?  Ask Micro about "marksmanship" training in the IDF. :O

Oy, veh, the goyim think Zahal is the place to learn shootin'. :laugh:

The U.S. Army is just as bad.
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