Post by: Ben on September 06, 2007, 07:02:31 PM
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Golden State Lead Ammunition Ban Sent to Governor's Desk!
Please Contact Governor Schwarzenegger Today!
Today the California Legislature sent Assembly Bill 821 to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) for his consideration. AB 821 would ban the use of lead ammunition for hunting in areas occupied by California condor. The lead ammunition ban cannot be supported by scientific fact. The Legislature has chosen to make a political football out of an anti-hunting group's efforts to ban lead ammunition throughout the state.
By passing AB 821, the Legislature has usurped the authority of the Fish and Game Commission over the regulation of hunting and the management of the state's wildlife. The Legislature has arrogantly dismissed the years-long deliberative process involving extensive public input and review of the most current scientific information pertaining to the potential effects of lead ammunition on the health of condors. The most recent scientific review provided to the Commission revealed that previous science attempting to show a link between lead ammunition and condor mortality is severely flawed.
Unlike the Fish and Game Commission, the Legislature did not take into account the effects of a lead ammunition ban on the state's hunters. Studies show that a ban will force many hunters to quit hunting altogether. This will have terrible consequences on wildlife management practices and the state's hunting heritage.
Please contact the Governor and respectfully tell him that the Fish and Game Commission is the government body of experts appropriately entrusted to scientifically regulate hunting in California, not politicians in Sacramento. Respectfully request that he veto AB 821 and allow the Commission's process to continue its course.
Governor Schwarzenegger can be reached by phone at 916-445-2841, fax at 916-445-4633, or visit http://gov.ca.gov/interact#email to send email.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on September 06, 2007, 07:13:20 PM
Maybe its just their time to die out. If lead ammunition has such a devastating effect on birds then why aren't many other meat eaters in danger?
Cause its all BS.
Post by: Paddy on September 06, 2007, 08:08:58 PM
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AB 821 would ban the use of lead ammunition for hunting in areas occupied by California condor.
Whoops. The devil is in the details. Condors move all over the place. We had three of them living on Pine Mountain (right behind our house) for a few weeks. They even landed about 20 feet from me while I was washing my truck. They are freaking ugly, being carrion birds and all. Still it was freaking amazing.
Post by: LadySmith on September 07, 2007, 01:25:28 AM
Post by: Standing Wolf on September 07, 2007, 03:47:14 AM
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The lead ammunition ban cannot be supported by scientific fact.
Yeah, and the sun generally rises in the east, too.
I still miss the beaches now and then, but life in the United States is far superior.
Post by: Creeping Incrementalism on September 07, 2007, 10:23:11 AM
The NRA is right about the legislature ursurping authority from the F&G Commission. The lefties did this about 15 years ago when the scientific data showed mountain lions could be sustainably hunted. F&G was about to okay it, so the environmentalists got it put on the ballot, and hunting was banned forever. Here, when the ban is faltering in F&G, the legislature decides to run with it, and I have to write that many more letters telling the nimrods that five dead birds is no reason to ban hunting in near half the state.
Post by: MechAg94 on September 07, 2007, 06:10:11 PM
Post by: Antibubba on September 08, 2007, 12:11:07 AM
I called Ahhnuld this morning. Since AB 821 is not one of the bills you can select from the automated menu (but one having to do with the selling of kangaroo parts is
) you have to wait to talk to a live person, which really is a good thing.
Post by: Antibubba on September 08, 2007, 02:43:50 AM
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AB1645, sponsored by Assemblyman Doug La Malfa (R-2), will protect law-abiding gun owners during a declared state of emergency from the seizure or confiscation of any lawfully carried or possessed firearm or ammunition.
That this is even going to his desk at all is an event.
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 08, 2007, 05:17:36 AM
They even landed about 20 feet from me while I was washing my truck.
Why are you washing your truck, you wuss?
Post by: jeepmor on September 08, 2007, 12:03:06 PM
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They even landed about 20 feet from me while I was washing my truck.
Why are you washing your truck, you wuss?
Why are you washing your truck, you wuss?
It's probably a bigazz gas guzzler too, you should be ashamed for wasting water. Although, I know it's a Ranger, just joshing.
Pine Mountain, are you in Oregon, east of Bend? We saw a cougar out there last year atop that mountain. But I suspect there are as many Pine Mountains in America as there are Lost Lakes. I think we have 3 Lost Lakes in Oregon alone.
Man, those Californians smoke way too much pot becuase a large portion of them are obviously high, banning lead ammo.... hmm, hidden agenda, nah.
Post by: Paddy on September 08, 2007, 07:35:32 PM
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It's probably a bigazz gas guzzler too, you should be ashamed for wasting water. Although, I know it's a Ranger, just
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Pine Mountain, are you in Oregon, east of Bend? We saw a cougar out there last year atop that mountain. But I suspect there are as many Pine Mountains in America as there are Lost Lakes. I think we have 3 Lost Lakes in Oregon alone.
Pine Mountains all over. This one is in central coastal California, halfway 'twixt LA & SF, and bout 12 mi inland (from the Pacific Ocean, for those in Misery).
BTW, I just visited my bro in La Grande OR. Great little town, but I took the wrong route. Up through Sacramento into Reno, then Winnemucca into Idaho, back into OR across the Snake River. Next time, I'm taking the western route.