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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2010, 04:13:46 PM »
Dionysusigma, here is a quote from the Historyofwar.org site on the C117D.  It might answer your question.

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In 1962 the separate Navy and Air Force aircraft designation systems were replaced by a slightly modified version of the Air Force system and every existing Navy aircraft was given a new designation. Despite being a substantially different aircraft to the standard C-117, the Navy’s R4D-8s (Super DC-3s) were redesignated as the C-117D. These aircraft had a longer fuselage and a larger tail than the C-47, and a swept back trailing edge on the wings. The C-117D remained in Marine Corps service until July 1976.

The C117D was actually used in USMC(R) service at least past the end of 1977.  I know because I rode in one in September that year.  It sure was a surprise (and a real treat) watching it approach the field at Stumps, knowing I was about to board her.  I doubt anyone else that was waiting for the flight appreciated the history of the DC-3/Super DC-3 Series aircraft.

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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2010, 04:28:52 PM »
My Dad's outfit in WWII had a C-47 that didn't exist . . . the mechanics had assembled it out of written-off aircraft. It was the official aircraft of "The Nipper's Club" (officers & enlisted) and was used to fly down to Australia to buy booze and such on a regular basis.

I believe it was also the aircraft used to transport MacArthur's food - steaks, bacon, fresh fruit, fresh eggs, etc., - back to the group where they had a couple of good meals thanks to the general's good taste . . .  =D
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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2010, 06:37:15 PM »
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Twin sister. Our bird in MAG-12 was BuNo 17242, call sign "Black Tempest 242."

For those who don't know, all Navy and Marine aircraft have "Bureau Numbers" unique to the aircraft, like the USAF has "tail numbers." Current aircraft being delivered have BuNos in the range of 169,000. Note that Black Tempest is missing a digit. Long time ago.

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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2010, 10:56:45 PM »
20 years or so ago , after just having got my private license, I was goofing around about 2000 ft agl ,making a spiral down through a hole in the clouds and what do I see but a B17, all polished, glowing in the sun, cruising along about 500 feet -so I rolled my Focke Wolf 190 into a steep turn to get into position for a firing run....... ;)
 ahem-- actually, I watched as it's cruise speed handily outran my cessna 152.... Dang, what a lovely sight!  =D
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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2010, 11:47:12 PM »
Quote from: tokugawa on April 07, 2010, 10:56:45 PM
20 years or so ago , after just having got my private license, I was goofing around about 2000 ft agl ,making a spiral down through a hole in the clouds and what do I see but a B17, all polished, glowing in the sun, cruising along about 500 feet -so I rolled my Focke Wolf 190 into a steep turn to get into position for a firing run....... ;)
 ahem-- actually, I watched as it's cruise speed handily outran my cessna 152.... Dang, what a lovely sight!  =D

I had a B-17G ( I think it was Aluminum Overcast) come in for landing right behind me after one flight. Damn cool, because I had not been expecting it. I got to see it land...it took up most of the 3,800 ft runway...

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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #30 on: April 08, 2010, 01:27:47 AM »
One of these days I'm going to scan some of the photos I took years ago of Sentimental Journey while I was on her crew.  Some are ground photos, some are in-flight from the inside.  I'll post them here when I do.
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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #31 on: April 08, 2010, 01:37:42 AM »
I had the honor of being given a free flight in Liberty Belle.

It is not an experience I will ever forget.  =)
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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #32 on: April 08, 2010, 08:35:59 AM »
In my old job, some of the most fun was at the little airports.  Whenever there was a fly in, a unique aircraft visiting, or an airshow, we were quite often invited to come after hours or as VIPs and get good behind the scenes tours.
I was in Brownsville for 2 years, and had alot of fun hanging around the CAF folks.  They put on a hell of a party, too  :cool:

I have some grainy old pictures I'll upload when I have time.
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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #33 on: April 08, 2010, 09:07:25 AM »
This is an old Fouga jet that was kind of siezed by customs and abandonded by its owner.  Customs didn't know what to do with it, so they just left it at the CAF hanger. 



View of the international bridge, taken from a Twin Beech.  Old guy was wandering around and we flew into Mexico a few times.... :laugh:



I'm sure I've got more buried somewhere in my files.
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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #34 on: April 08, 2010, 11:05:07 AM »
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View of the international bridge, taken from a Twin Beech.

I guess I don't need to ask which side is which ;)
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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #35 on: April 09, 2010, 12:45:14 AM »

Sentimental Journey taking off at Fresno, CA on a press flight, summer 1986.


A poor image shot from the upper turret looking aft on a flight back to Phoenix from Madera, CA, sometime in 1982.


At the time the only flyable P-51B providing us with an escort back to Phoenix.  There was a P-51D off the right wing at the same time.  This was shot from the left side radio room window.
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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #36 on: April 09, 2010, 12:49:10 AM »

Low pass at Hillboro Airport, Hillsboro, OR, summer 1986.  Unbeknownst to me at the time, I had made my last flight in her the day before on our arrival from Salem.


Stripped down for a complete rebuild not long after our return from Madera, summer 1982.  Many said SJ would never fly again.  They were wrong.


SJ taxiing at Falcon Field, Mesa, AZ, sometime in 1984 or '85.
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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #37 on: April 09, 2010, 01:01:56 AM »

One wheel show landing at Madera, CA Airshow, 1982.


Col. Bob Hoover making a low pass in his Rockwell Aviation sponsored P-51D at Deer Valley Airport, North Phoenix, AZ, at an airshow in 1986.  Later on this flight, Hoover forgot he had raised the gear and accidentally ticked the runway with his prop while intending to give a wheel bouncing demonstration.
He continued the flight and was later cited by the FAA for doing so.


After the prop bending flight.  If you look closely, you might see the slightly curled tips of the prop.  He flew out the following Monday on a prop borrowed from another Mustang owner at Deer Valley.
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Re: "You don't normally see a DC-3 from this angle. Good thing, too."
« Reply #38 on: April 09, 2010, 10:37:00 AM »
Quote from: JamisJockey on April 08, 2010, 08:35:59 AM
In my old job, some of the most fun was at the little airports.  Whenever there was a fly in, a unique aircraft visiting, or an airshow, we were quite often invited to come after hours or as VIPs and get good behind the scenes tours.
I was in Brownsville for 2 years, and had alot of fun hanging around the CAF folks.  They put on a hell of a party, too  :cool:

I have some grainy old pictures I'll upload when I have time.

Yes, they did!  I remember one party, mostly.
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