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Title: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: MechAg94 on December 12, 2023, 05:46:31 PM
Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/missouri-company-used-in-gun-buybacks-doesnt-actually-destroy-the-guns-41427389

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Yet an in-depth investigation published Sunday by the New York Times found that Gunbusters — as well as many other similar companies — often only destroys a very specific part of the gun called the frame, affixed with the gun's serial number. Gunbusters then sells the firearm's remaining components.

Those components, the paper found, can be used as replacement parts in another gun or can even wind up being used to build a "ghost gun," a firearm that is virtually untraceable because its frame has no serial number. 

Looks like someone figured out that melting down the entire gun costs more money.  But if they allow the company to just destroy the frame, that company can reduce cost by selling the parts.  Makes perfect sense to me, but I guess it wasn't something that occurred to gun grabbers. 

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The statement from Reed went on to say that when the company has an initial meeting with police departments, the police are offered a choice for any guns turned over to be completely pulverized, for a fee, or for only the frames to be destroyed, for free, with the remainder of the weapon “salvaged.”

NYT link
The Guns Were Said to Be Destroyed. Instead, They Were Reborn.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/us/guns-disposal-recycling.html
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: Tuco on December 12, 2023, 07:52:45 PM
I read this last week on the news site that shall not be named.  My first reaction was quick and instinctive. "Haha. BATF said so. Only the receiver is the gun. Haha"

Then I got scared. "Uh oh. That bit of bureaucratic minutia is best kept on the QT."
Last thing we need is grabbers petitioning for a change in definition to include bolts, barrels and the up thing
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: WLJ on December 12, 2023, 08:02:01 PM
I read this last week on the news site that shall not be named.  My first reaction was quick and instinctive. "Haha. BATF said so. Only the receiver is the gun. Haha"

Then I got scared. "Uh oh. That bit of bureaucratic minutia is best kept on the QT."
Last thing we need is grabbers petitioning for a change in definition to include bolts, barrels and the up thing

They already have been
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 12, 2023, 11:07:58 PM
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Those components, the paper found, can be used as replacement parts in another gun or can even wind up being used to build a "ghost gun," a firearm that is virtually untraceable because its frame has no serial number.

Wouldn't that actually be a Frankenstein gun?
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: MechAg94 on December 13, 2023, 08:57:09 AM
They already have been
That is the new frame and receiver rule they are trying to push through. 
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: 230RN on December 13, 2023, 10:46:10 AM
I read this last week on the news site that shall not be named.  My first reaction was quick and instinctive. "Haha. BATF said so. Only the receiver is the gun. Haha"

Then I got scared. "Uh oh. That bit of bureaucratic minutia is best kept on the QT."
Last thing we need is grabbers petitioning for a change in definition to include bolts, barrels and the up thing

I've been bellyaching for many years about calling AR-style uppers "upper receivers" based on the same premise.  It's like leaving your car doors open with your wallet on the dashboard.
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: Pb on December 13, 2023, 11:21:34 AM

The Guns Were Said to Be Destroyed. Instead, They Were Reborn.


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Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: zxcvbob on December 13, 2023, 11:44:26 AM
Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
https://www.riverfronttimes.com/news/missouri-company-used-in-gun-buybacks-doesnt-actually-destroy-the-guns-41427389

Looks like someone figured out that melting down the entire gun costs more money.  But if they allow the company to just destroy the frame, that company can reduce cost by selling the parts.  Makes perfect sense to me, but I guess it wasn't something that occurred to gun grabbers. 

NYT link
The Guns Were Said to Be Destroyed. Instead, They Were Reborn.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/us/guns-disposal-recycling.html

They actually do destroy the guns, but they salvage some of the parts.  NYT is just trying to create a shitstorm. (disclaimer: I've only read the first few sentences because it's behind a paywall) 

When "Cash for Clunkers" was around, the scrap yards had to destroy the engines.  They then had 180 days to destroy the rest of the vehicle but in the meantime they could strip off and salvage any parts that still had value, like the tires and catalytic converters.  (it was a stupid and terrible program, BTW)
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: WLJ on December 13, 2023, 11:58:31 AM
Gun parts let loose back into the wild where they could kill again!
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: Cliffh on December 15, 2023, 09:25:18 PM
Gun parts let loose back into the wild where they could kill again belong!

FIFY
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: WLJ on December 16, 2023, 08:17:58 AM
I was mocking news headlines.
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: Perd Hapley on December 16, 2023, 10:25:47 AM
I was mocking news headlines.

Well, you did it wrong. There was no mention of how the dangerous gun parts are most likely to kill gay black trans Muslim women of color. Because of Trump.
Title: Re: Missouri Company Used in Gun Buybacks Doesn’t Actually Destroy the Guns
Post by: lee n. field on December 16, 2023, 01:49:03 PM
Meanwhile I've got a couple "gunbuster" (string to search on) auctions on my watchlist at Gunborker, hoping to pick up a parts kit for something.