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Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« on: February 11, 2009, 02:33:48 PM »
Well - hardly a crowd - YET but still - I'm so proud...

In a joint senate/house resolution OK stands up to the FEDS.

It's a resolution and does not have force of law but it is a darn good start.  That's 3 states now telling the FEDS to go 'F' themselves.

Who's gonna be next?


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STATE OF OKLAHOMA

1st Session of the 52nd Legislature (2009)

HOUSE JOINT
RESOLUTION 1003   By:   Key





AS INTRODUCED

A Joint Resolution claiming sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over certain powers; serving notice to the federal government to cease and desist certain mandates; providing that certain federal legislation be prohibited or repealed; and directing distribution.




WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States reads as follows:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."; and

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that specifically granted by the Constitution of the United States and no more; and

WHEREAS, the scope of power defined by the Tenth Amendment means that the federal government was created by the states specifically to be an agent of the states; and

WHEREAS, today, in 2009, the states are demonstrably treated as agents of the federal government; and

WHEREAS, many federal laws are directly in violation of the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States; and

WHEREAS, the Tenth Amendment assures that we, the people of the United States of America and each sovereign state in the Union of States, now have, and have always had, rights the federal government may not usurp; and

WHEREAS, Article IV, Section 4 says, “The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government”, and the Ninth Amendment states that ”The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people”; and

WHEREAS, the United States Supreme Court has ruled in New York v. United States, 112 S. Ct. 2408 (1992), that Congress may not simply commandeer the legislative and regulatory processes of the states; and

WHEREAS, a number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from Congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States.

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED BY THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE SENATE OF THE 1ST SESSION OF THE 52ND OKLAHOMA LEGISLATURE:
THAT the State of Oklahoma hereby claims sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States.

THAT this serve as Notice and Demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers.

THAT all compulsory federal legislation which directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed.

THAT a copy of this resolution be distributed to the President of the United States, the President of the United States Senate, the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, the Speaker of the House and the President of the Senate of each state's legislature of the United States of America, and each member of the Oklahoma Congressional Delegation.

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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2009, 02:56:57 PM »
Sweet. =D
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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2009, 02:59:27 PM »
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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2009, 03:08:12 PM »
Montana, Oklahoma, and... was it a New England state?
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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2009, 03:14:00 PM »
Yep, Arizona is in there, too.
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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2009, 03:14:43 PM »
Wow. I do wonder what will happen....  :O
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2009, 03:15:28 PM »
I cannot believe Michigan is part of this.  It will never pan out.  Ann Arbor, Detroit, Lansing and Grand Rapids hold this state hostage.

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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2009, 03:38:27 PM »
Montana, Oklahoma, and... was it a New England state?
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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2009, 03:41:23 PM »
Yeah, I recalled that right after I posted. Good place, great liquor stores...  =D
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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2009, 03:42:39 PM »
I am very angry that Texas hasn't done this yet.

or that I am unaware if they have.
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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2009, 04:57:25 PM »
I am very angry that Texas hasn't done this yet.

Me too. I'll bet a whole bunch of Texans agree with you on that.

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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2009, 05:05:25 PM »
I'm Shocked, Shocked I tell you, to discover that my state has passed something similiar.....



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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2009, 05:21:31 PM »
Neat, but probably pointless. Note that California passed this in 1994. Not exactly the most free state in the union...

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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2009, 05:27:09 PM »
Sadly I don't think Nevada will do this, we are too kaliforicated.
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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2009, 06:27:23 PM »
Neat, but probably pointless. Note that California passed this in 1994. Not exactly the most free state in the union...

California's been fighting with the feds on a host of issues, including medical marijuana and the right to set stricter vehicle mileage standards.

Just because the state doesn't want the feds in their business doesn't mean that the state wants more freedom for its people...

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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2009, 06:46:41 PM »
California's been fighting with the feds on a host of issues, including medical marijuana and the right to set stricter vehicle mileage standards.

Just because the state doesn't want the feds in their business doesn't mean that the state wants more freedom for its people...


And frankly, this is fine.  The whole premise of the United States was a capitalist economy with a 'capitalist' government style.  One state should be able to compete against another state.  The union is only supposed to keep one state from conquering another state and allow people to move freely between the states.  The states play the roles of companies and the goverments play the roles of products/goods/services.

Don't like the state you live in?  Did the goverment mess up too much?  Then move away.

This is what is happening in California.  They busted the bank with their socialist programs and now the productive members of that state are fleeing the burning building.

I really hope the feds don't bail them out.  They need to fall flat on their faces.

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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2009, 07:00:51 PM »
I regret that Virginia didn't lead the charge on this. Sadly, the Old Dominion is rapidly becoming a shadow of its former independence.

I wonder if this movement is really directly connected to the congressional shenanigans, or to the Obama arrogance, or to something else?

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2009, 07:02:03 PM »
I regret that Virginia didn't lead the charge on this. Sadly, the Old Dominion is rapidly becoming a shadow of its former independence.

I wonder if this movement is really directly connected to the congressional shenanigans, or to the Obama arrogance, or to something else?

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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2009, 12:20:02 PM »
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I really hope the feds don't bail them out.  They need to fall flat on their faces.

As a passenger on the derailing train, I agree, mostly.  Having friends and family who are directly affected I feel bad about it.  But as someone who is disgusted with the entire "Left Coast" mentality I'm gleeful.  I can't see most Califorons going on a "less gov is good" backlash, though--instead, they'll just make passing a budget easier, by simple majority.
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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2009, 12:35:10 PM »
I just got notice that the Oklahoma House passed the resolution out of committee with a unanimous YES vote.

Still waiting on the Senate.
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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2009, 12:59:16 PM »

Don't like the state you live in?  Did the goverment mess up too much?  Then move away.

This is what is happening in California.  They busted the bank with their socialist programs and now the productive members of that state are fleeing the burning building.

I have to agree with this.  While plenty of good and right-minded people in California are fighting for various good causes, I decided to just leave and move to Texas.

I find it funny that people in Texas get angry when Californians want to make it more "left", but yet it's perfectly OK to want to make California more "Right".  I figure, just let California be California, and let Texas be Texas, you know?
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2009, 03:04:46 PM »
Medical marijuana is socialist?
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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2009, 03:12:21 PM »
Me too. I'll bet a whole bunch of Texans agree with you on that.

Count me in that number.....first we have to get our spineless Gov. Goodhair our of office & put in a liberty-lovin' conservative type before this has half a chance of success...

...or we could just secede the rest of the state from Austin and do it ourselves....I'm good with either....  =D
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Re: Oklahoma Joins the Growing Crowd
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2009, 03:57:43 PM »
Medical marijuana is socialist?

It's a lefty issue, and lefty == socialist, so sure.
I guess.
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