Dayton Ohio now

[p12]

Dayton, Ohio shooting leaves 9 dead, 16 wounded; suspect shot to death by cops, police say

https://www.foxnews.com/us/at-least-10-may-be-dead-in-dayton-ohio-gunfire-reports

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This is bullshit.

This will not end well.


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[TechMan]

I know exactly where that took place.  My company’s Dayton office, when it was open, was a block or so off of 5th Ave which is the main drag for the Oregon district.

[WLJ]

Got a feeling this and the other two the past few days may push Congress, and maybe even Trump, over the "it's for the children" edge. Hope I'm wrong. We'll see.

[T.O.M.]

This...
The NRA infighting...
Trump not a 2A supporter...
Starting to hear more and more gun owners say "maybe some gun control isn't a bad idea"...

I think "universal background checks" (whatever the hell that means), an end of "the gun show loophole" (even though there is no such loophole), and at least a new AWB are headed our way. 

[WLJ]

Officers killed the lone suspect after he fired for less than a minute from a ".223 high-capacity" gun, and he had additional magazines with him, Mayor Nan Whaley said. The .223 caliber is used in rifles like the AR-15 assault rifle used in previous mass shootings.
Deb Decker, public information officer for Montgomery County, said the shooter used an assault rifle.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/dayton-ohio-active-shooter/index.html

[Ben]

This...
The NRA infighting...
Trump not a 2A supporter...
Starting to hear more and more gun owners say "maybe some gun control isn't a bad idea"...

I think "universal background checks" (whatever the hell that means), an end of "the gun show loophole" (even though there is no such loophole), and at least a new AWB are headed our way. 

Yeah, with 2020 elections on the way, the dems will go full bore, and the Rs will look to "moderate" their positions.

I was going to buy a couple of stripped lowers soon anyway for future builds, but will probably now do so this week, just in case people start doing panic pricing.

[T.O.M.]

Yeah, with 2020 elections on the way, the dems will go full bore, and the Rs will look to "moderate" their positions.

I was going to buy a couple of stripped lowers soon anyway for future builds, but will probably now do so this week, just in case people start doing panic pricing.

Mags.  Buy mags.

[Ben]

Mags.  Buy mags.

I had planned on doing that the next time PSA has one of those "10 Pmags and a boatload of ammo" sales.

I'm going to see how things go and try not to do any panic buying, except maybe for ammo for the .300 Blackout that I don't own yet. :)

[BobR]

Mags.  Buy mags.

This.

It will take a while to pull together some gun banning legislation, banning normal capacity mags can be done with the stroke of a pen.

bob

[BobR]

It was just released that the youngest of the victims in Dayton was the shooter's sister. This is either something you could never lay odds on or she may have been targeted. Weirder things have happened. I wonder if this will be the last we hear of the sister/brother connection?

bob

[Hawkmoon]

It was just released that the youngest of the victims in Dayton was the shooter's sister. This is either something you could never lay odds on or she may have been targeted. Weirder things have happened. I wonder if this will be the last we hear of the sister/brother connection?

That's too much of a coincidence to have been a coincidence.

[WLJ]

Honor killing gone nuclear?

[RocketMan]

Honor killing gone nuclear?

If it has anything to do with that, we'll never hear about it.

[bedlamite]

I had planned on doing that the next time PSA has one of those "10 Pmags and a boatload of ammo" sales.

I'm going to see how things go and try not to do any panic buying, except maybe for ammo for the .300 Blackout that I don't own yet. :)

https://palmettostatearmory.com/american-eagle-5-56mm-fmjbt-ammunition-1000rds-ten-10-magpul-pmag-30-5-56x45mm-magazines.html

https://palmettostatearmory.com/1000-rds-american-eagle-5-56mm-fmj-steel-core-ammo-ten-magpul-pmag-30-5-56x45mm-magazines.html

[Angel Eyes]

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

On social media, the suspect’s biography started to emerge. On his Twitter page, reviewed by Heavy, he described himself as “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.” He wrote on Twitter that he would happily vote for Democrat Elizabeth Warren, praised Satan, was upset about the 2016 presidential election results, and added, “I want socialism, and i’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding.”

[Ben]

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts/

Interesting. Now we can start tallying how much Dayton is in the news cycle compared to El Paso, and the news slant regarding each shooting.

[WLJ]

Doesn't matter. In the eyes of the media
El Paso = Trump inspired shooter
Dayton = Triggered by Trump

[MechAg94]

Sounds like a good time to call your Congressman to put in your two cents in about not wanting more gun control.

[Angel Eyes]

Neil deGrasse Tyson attempts to inject some perspective into the debate, and gets roasted for it:

https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/1158074774297468928

(a pity; he actually makes some valid points)

[WLJ]

[https://www.foxnews.com/us/dayton-ohio-shooting-massacre-bar

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[zxcvbob]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/dayton-ohio-shooting-massacre-bar

Cleaning up badly-formatted links

[T.O.M.]

7:02 a.m. on August 5. HLN reporting that Trump is tweeting his support for universal background checks and other gun control measures so the dead didn't "die in vain."

Cue panic buying in 3....2....1....

[Ben]

7:02 a.m. on August 5. HLN reporting that Trump is tweeting his support for universal background checks and other gun control measures so the dead didn't "die in vain."

Cue panic buying in 3....2....1....

I think it already did. Bedlamite's links are already out of stock, as well as another link for mags that BobR PM'd me.

[bedlamite]

Several places are OOS on a lot of items this morning.

ETA: SGA still has 9 cases left:

https://www.sgammo.com/product/223-556mm-ammo/1000-round-loose-pack-case-223-federal-american-eagle-55-grain-fmj-loose-pack

[Ben]

Several places are OOS on a lot of items this morning.

Yeah, I should have listened to you guys. I ordered my stripped lowers yesterday, but should have bought a mags or a mags+ammo PSA deal. This morning (0530MDT), I went to buy one the deals you all linked to, and "sold out". I saw individual Gen2 mags are still available at locally to me Impact Guns for $12.

I try to avoid panic buys and prefer to just wait things out, but being new to the AR platform, I don't currently have the reserves that I have with my other most used guns. I'm sitting on a dozen Pmags and around 1000 rounds. I'd like to be double that on mags and triple that on ammo (at reasonable prices).

Ya snooze, ya lose I guess.