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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: red headed stranger on October 05, 2011, 02:33:42 PM
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Calling all pirate hunters, we might have found a suitable vessel:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HISTORIC-USCGC-Acushnet-Coast-Guard-Cutter-Diver-Vessel-UP-AUCTION-?cmd=ViewItem&_trkparms=algo%3DETS.ETSD%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D100%26ps%3D10&_trksid=p3284.m108&item=120785188578#ht_90407wt_1167
Buy it now for $10M!
There is a lot to drool over in the pics.
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Is a cutter around the size of a corvette? I assume it is smaller than a frigate.
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For that price, it at least ought to come with a 5 inch gun (not de-milled either) and I see nothing of the sort.
From the looks of that boat, I'm guessing it has provisions for not much more than pintle mount M2 .50BMG's etc. =|
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someone call Al Gore right now:
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Man, no wonder it had such a large crew for the displacement. WWII manual technology throughout. None of this control by wire or jet turbine engines here.
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whose got an amex black card for
gas diesel? 95 k gallons?
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Yep, needs a deck gun or two.
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Here is one good article about the Achushnet and where she has served. The Pendleton disaster is not well known outside of the Coast Guard but a few legends were made that day. (Google BM1 Bernie Webber to learn more about that)
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/remembering-uscgc-acushnet/
Here are some specs for the boat.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/wmec-213-specs.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/ship/wmec-213.htm
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I'd love a big boat like that if I was a mega billiozaire but it's chock full of antiquated tech.
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I think we have enough tech guys here to do a suitable refit.
I'll handle the galley/bar.
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Yep, needs a deck gun or two.
57mm Bofors guns would do nicely, yes? >:D
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Yep, needs a deck gun or two.
We don't need no steenkin' deck gun.....we have Physics and Rocketman....
=D
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so you're saying we'll have a railgun and an MLRS on deck? SWEEET......
:D
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so you're saying we'll have a railgun and an MLRS on deck? SWEEET......
:D
....and an underwater launch bay for the sharks with laser beams..... :cool:
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....and an underwater launch bay for the sharks with laser beams..... :cool:
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I'd also want a helicopter, but our source for getting one wholesale is no longer there. Although with Rocketman, Nick, Physics and the Rev aborad, well, let just say I want some really good sunglasses and some sunscreen in SPF 10,000,000,000.
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Here is one good article about the Achushnet and where she has served. The Pendleton disaster is not well known outside of the Coast Guard but a few legends were made that day. (Google BM1 Bernie Webber to learn more about that)
http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/stories/remembering-uscgc-acushnet/
"Sadly, it was time for the Coast Guard’s oldest ship to go."
Uh...wouldn't that be USCGC Eagle, by eight years? (Or by four months if you only count from the US commissioning.)
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"So, Mr. Terrorist, you have an RPG? Buwhahahahahaha! Say hello to my leetle freend."
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The first beam suppresses the charge on the electron.
The second beam suppresses the charge of the proton...
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The first beam suppresses the charge on the electron.
The second beam suppresses the charge of the proton...
3. Profit!
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Be upwind though. Lots of monatomic dust will be floating about.
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The first beam suppresses the charge on the electron.
The second beam suppresses the charge of the proton...
The third beam gets really confused trying to figure out what to do with the neutron.
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The third beam gets really confused trying to figure out what to do with the neutron.
There is no third beam in a slaver disintegrator.
(Which is a kinda-sorta ironic name. Considering pirates sometimes do "slaving"...)
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Uh...wouldn't that be USCGC Eagle, by eight years? (Or by four months if you only count from the US commissioning.)
If the Eagle is in service as opposed to commissioned it wouldn't be the oldest cutter. That may or may not apply here. The 87' patrol boats that have enlisted OIC's are in service instead of commissioned. Rumor has it the person who won the bid, at about $600,000, doesn't have the money for fuel to take it to where ever he was planning on taking it. So he put it back up for sale (this is the eBay ad in this thread) so maybe you guys can pick her up pretty cheap. As far as old tech goes a lot of the stuff on board is relatively up to date. The thing I would worry most about are the reduction gears.
I also would NOT touch a 378 with a 10 foot pole if you guys think one of those would be good for pirate hunting. Wafer thin hull plating and plenty of reduction gear problems!
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If the Eagle is in service as opposed to commissioned it wouldn't be the oldest cutter.
At least one source lists her as "current, active commission," same as the Constitution.
Rumor has it the person who won the bid, at about $600,000, doesn't have the money for fuel to take it to where ever he was planning on taking it.
Refit for sail, and let's go.
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According to the CG Historian's official website the Smilax was commissioned in 1944, the Eagle on May 15th, 1946.
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According to the CG Historian's official website the Smilax was commissioned in 1944, the Eagle on May 15th, 1946.
Acushnet was commissioned as USS Shackle by the Navy in February 1944, decommissioned from the Navy and commissioned into the Coast Guard as USCGC Acushnet in August of 1946. Smilax should have had the title of oldest commission (November of 1944) all along if they're going by CG commission date, with Eagle (May of 1946) second and Acushnet third. If they're counting original commission date regardless of service, then Eagle's got them all beat by several years with its 1936 commissioning as SSS Horst Wessel, then Acushnet/Shackle, then Smilax.
Timeline:
USCGC Eagle first Commissioned (as SSS Horst Wessel): September 1936
USCGC Acushnet first Commissioned (as USS Shackle): February 1944
USCGC Smilax Commissioned: November 1944
USCGC Eagle recommissioned: May 1946
USCGC Acushnet recommissioned: August 1946
The only way it makes sense to put Acushnet first and Smilax second is if you're going by total US service, regardless of branch or name.
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Well, I don't have an answer for you! Ask me a question about motor lifeboats or other small boats. =D
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Well, I don't have an answer for you! Ask me a question about motor lifeboats or other small boats. =D
Okay, if the German Navy commissions a really big motor lifeboat with sails in 1936, and the USCG takes it and recommissions it in 1946, how old is the lifeboat in 2011? =D
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OMG, are we buying the damn boat or not?
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OMG, are we buying the damn boat or not?
Going through withdrawals already? ;)
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OMG, are we buying the damn boat or not?
I ain't seen your half of the money yet....
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Okay, if the German Navy commissions a really big motor lifeboat with sails in 1936, and the USCG takes it and recommissions it in 1946, how old is the lifeboat in 2011?
How about an old ship built in the 18th century that's all original - except for new deck, new ribs, new keel, new planking, and new rigging ???
=D
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Going through withdrawals already? ;)
Yes.
I ain't seen your half of the money yet....
Check's in the mail.
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No... the logistical tail on this is just too long. We need something much more efficient.
I think the best way to go is find something newer, in diesel-electric, then we fly under the radar with the DOE, and get birdman and physics working on retrofitting it with a little miniature Thorium pile and some sort of non-traditional starter neutron source, and we run some smoky little truck diesels up the funnel when we're near port. :angel:
There's no way we're going to break even the first few years, even if we got lucky and were issued a letter or marque right away without even proving ourselves first.
Although... taking a contract from the Japanese to go after the Sea Shepherd might be fun... =D
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There's no way we're going to break even the first few years, even if we got lucky and were issued a letter or marque right away without even proving ourselves first.
Never say never! We sail close to where the Somalis are holding some of these ships, launch a small boat with a prize crew, take a ship back and ask for half of what the Somalis wanted in ransom. Voila! (just don't pay 10 mil for the Acushnet like the guy is asking for. Especially since he just bought it for $600,000. Sheesh!)
Okay, if the German Navy commissions a really big motor lifeboat with sails in 1936, and the USCG takes it and recommissions it in 1946, how old is the lifeboat in 2011?
Middle aged, by Coast Guard standards!
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Although... taking a contract from the Japanese to go after the Sea Shepherd might be fun... =D
Like. Plus eleventy.
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Although... taking a contract from the Japanese to go after the Sea Shepherd might be fun... =D
I wonder if there's any way to convince some Somali pirates that there's a LOT on money and gold bullion on the Sea Shepherd ...