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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2012, 02:06:53 PM »
HankB, in making a movie, the scenes are shot individually, which you know. My point is that an actor says a line or two, and then they cut and take a break. They'll shoot dozens of times if necessary to get the lines just right.

That's the difference between a good speaker and an actor. Paul Ryan and Obama, for example, are very good speakers, but can't act (although it could be argued that Obama is acting). Ryan can speak without notes or a teleprompter, if necessary. Obama can't talk to a room of second grade kids without a teleprompter.

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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2012, 02:23:13 PM »
Clint is a better director than an actor.  That's not news.

Rhetoric is designed to persuade; acting is designed to reveal.  Huge difference.  (Yes, I am speaking from experience.)
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2012, 02:26:48 PM »
Monkeyleg, your points on making a movie are right in line with my comment on " . . . rehearsal, editing, and retakes . . . "

But I think you're being too kind to Obama.
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2012, 02:32:04 PM »
Lying and acting are too different things.  And fortunately most people can tell the difference.  Usually.
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2012, 05:41:23 PM »
I still think that Clint delivered his skit exactly as intended  ;)

It takes a lot of skill and practice to make stumbling look that natural  :lol:
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2012, 05:54:49 PM »
I was amazed that he seemed nervous and a bit inarticulate, but I LOL'd at some of the lines.
I think the message to both R's and D's was that we are the boss and politicians are the employee's - which I'm willing to bet made a few grimaces to both R's and D's
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2012, 10:43:13 PM »
I still think that Clint delivered his skit exactly as intended  ;)

It takes a lot of skill and practice to make stumbling look that natural  :lol:

+1....in fact, what Eastwood did is a basic acting class exercise.....ironic that so many "actors" criticizing him don't seem to remember that part of class....
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2012, 10:46:13 PM »
Did he ask "Obama" five questions, or six ...?   =|
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #33 on: September 01, 2012, 10:49:08 AM »
The entire "discussion with an empty chair" was an amazing bash on Obama, the ultimate empty chair/empty suit.

And the funniest thing, is even the Left/MSM must think it's true enough that they don't dare touch the topic with a ten foot pole. Otherwise they'd be doing a full-court press to bash the analogy used. Making stuff up like it was a "Jim Crow Lynching chair, to be kicked out for a hanging, as secret code for the GOP base." or some such thing...

Oops. I was wrong. "Chair" is now racial code.

http://twitchy.com/2012/08/31/handbook-of-racial-code-words-now-includes-chair-eastwoods-rnc-appearance-dog-whistle/
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2012, 11:00:36 AM »
Clint is a better director than an actor.  That's not news.

Clint is not a bad actor.  Like John Wayne, he sort of plays himself in most cases.  He is also getting old and age makes a difference.

I have watched Clint's "speech" or preformance again and I am starting to think Clint did it exactly the way he planned to do it with a little fumbling around.  In part, nobody seemed to know what to expect from him.  What caught people off guard is that he was applying his craft to a political issue when folks were expecting a political speech. The unsteadiness of his speech is just Clint and not necessarily nervousness.
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #35 on: September 01, 2012, 11:56:23 AM »
I didn't say bad actor, I said better director than actor.  He has made some superb films behind the camera.  He has delivered, as an actor, what is needed and expected.  No small thing that.

Yes, he's getting older, but I agree that he did what he wanted to do at the Convention and that, more importantly, it worked, bigtime.
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2012, 12:41:27 PM »
I've spoken to groups the way Eastwood did, but nobody ever said I did a good acting job. ;)

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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2012, 12:56:54 PM »
Judging by the response from the left and the right I would say he accomplished what he set out to do.

Attacking and denigrating Clint the way the left wing media has isn't going to play well in fly-over country.

It is doubtful he changed many minds but he has voiced opinions that many were thinking but afraid to say.

Assuaging some doubts and emboldening those contemplating a vote for Romney was his goal. 
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2012, 04:39:33 PM »
Actors should, generally, stay away from politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdpY8UZoxVw
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #39 on: September 01, 2012, 05:00:08 PM »
Actors should, generally, stay away from politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdpY8UZoxVw

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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2012, 07:02:55 PM »
Mr. Eastwood is an actor.  He plied his craft very well the other night.   I laughed my ass off and I was laughing even harder watching and listening to all the folks who were totally fooled by him. :rofl: :rofl:
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2012, 10:46:15 PM »
Did he ask "Obama" five questions, or six ...?   =|

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I've spoken to groups the way Eastwood did, but nobody ever said I did a good acting job. ;)

There's a reason for that....
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2012, 08:49:41 AM »
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #43 on: September 03, 2012, 10:59:54 AM »
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The curse of political operatives is that they make everything the same. A guy smoothly reading platitudinous codswallop while rotating his head from the left-hand teleprompter to the right-hand teleprompter like clockwork as if he’s at Centre Court watching the world’s slowest Wimbledon rally is a very reductive idea of “professionalism.” Even politicians you’re well disposed to come across as slick bores in that format. Which is by way of saying Clint is too sharp and too crafty not to have known what he was doing.
this is a better stated version of my view.  Everyone is so used to polished smoothness on TV they are often shocked seeing someone speaking normally on TV.  They are also so used to people spilling out a lot of words yet saying absolutely nothing.  iMO, the hysterical reaction to that senate candidate in missouri shows voters really dont want to hear what people actually think.
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #44 on: September 03, 2012, 11:42:39 AM »
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2012, 02:22:32 PM »
"Squint Eastwood"

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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2012, 06:06:48 PM »
Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2012, 08:55:19 PM »
In celebration of the new Eastwooding meme:

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Here's a couple of the more worthy ones:








And my favorite so far:




With this as a close second:




Eastwooding.  We haz it.

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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2012, 11:59:14 PM »
Apparently he totally winged it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqzJSbng9ns
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Re: Clint Eastwood at GOP convention.
« Reply #49 on: September 08, 2012, 08:24:30 AM »
Clints local paper interviews him

http://www.pineconearchive.com/120907-1.html
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