Syria gas attack?

[Scout26]

Why does someone deploy chemical weapons on their own countrymen?

Because "countrymen" means nothing in the ME.  Tribe means everything.  And the various countries are nothing more then a bunch of tribes throw together (and or divided by political boundaries, See: "Kurds".)

What we're seeing in Syria is not "Civil War", but Tribal War.  Assad's Alawite tribe is and has been a minority in Syria,but retained power because he controlled the (originally Alawite) Army.  Once Syrian tribal leaders saw what happened in Tunsia, Libya, Egypt, they said "Hey, we can take this guy."  So some of the larger tribes banded together and away we go.

What we have now, is several tribes (as the FSA) and some AQ a-holes, fighting Assad's Alawite Army.  The reason they are not doing better is each tribe is fighting for themselves, there is little to no coordination between tribes and you have AQ *expletive deleted*tards trying to bring about Jihad and Caliphate.  If the FSA ever really got it's *expletive deleted* together Assad would be in serious trouble.  However, if the Syrian Army ever gets it *expletive deleted* together the FSA would be in serious trouble.

So I can see both sides using WMD's on each other (and their "Allies"), keep in mind that some/most/all of these WMD's came from Saddam Hussien's Iraq.

Here's better insight about it, surprising from a Non-us source (again):
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jul/25/syria-tribal-rivalries-shape-future

And yes, the only solution is an Asteroid.  Hopefully, one side to the other has some nukes and set's those off. That will solve a helluva lot of problems.

  

[Fitz]

Change it to "get fedguv out of State level law enforcement entirely" and I'll re-endorse you.

Not defending murderers and child rapists, I just see no reason for fedguv to get involved in those crimes unless in the case of murder of elected officials or international sex slavery.

deal

[Fitz]

is there any concrete evidence that the WMDs came from saddam (i'd guess around the time he sent the planes over) because that would just be the cats pajamas.

[AZRedhawk44]

How about also something like "Federal Agents have no law enforcement authority on their own unless duly deputized by a State/County/City agency, only for specific investigations, and for limited duration?"

[charby]

Because "countryman" means nothing in the ME.  Tribe means everything.  And the various countries are nothing more then a bunch of tribes throw together (and or divided by political boundaries, See: "Kurds".)

I know, no matter how much we dislike our government, I like living in the US. Could you imagine if all the German, French or Irish (and other groups) decided to go back to their tribal roots here and act in retribution to everyone. Would the Germans/Brits/French gang up on the Italians, or the Brits/French go after the Danes/Swedes/Finns/Norwegians?

[Gowen]

I know, no matter how much we dislike our government, I like living in the US. Could you imagine if all the German, French or Irish (and other groups) decided to go back to their tribal roots here and act in retribution to everyone. Would the Germans/Brits/French gang up on the Italians, or the Brits/French go after the Danes/Swedes/Finns/Norwegians?

That is why we are called a melting pot.  Our roots may come from different countries, but we all became Americans.  This is quite different from modern day immigration.  The "tribe" spirit is alive and well living in the many immigrants coming into America now.  Sadly, even blacks are reverting back to the "African-American" tribe.  Every group is against every other group.  We are no longer just Americans, but ____-Americans.  I need that John Wayne "hyphen" speech inserted here.  Politicians and liberals have propagated this, keep us divided and they have easy voter blocks to campaign to.  Conservatives, Liberals, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc, etc....   It's a powder keg waiting to go off. 

[HankB]

I know, no matter how much we dislike our government, I like living in the US. Could you imagine if all the German, French or Irish (and other groups) decided to go back to their tribal roots here and act in retribution to everyone. Would the Germans/Brits/French gang up on the Italians, or the Brits/French go after the Danes/Swedes/Finns/Norwegians?

This is EXACTLY the problem with hyphenated Americans, as Theodore Roosevelt put it so eloquently nearly a century ago:

. . . There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all.

This is just as true of the man who puts “native” before the hyphen as of the man who puts German or Irish or English or French before the hyphen. Americanism is a matter of the spirit and of the soul. Our allegiance must be purely to the United States. We must unsparingly condemn any man who holds any other allegiance.

But if he is heartily and singly loyal to this Republic, then no matter where he was born, he is just as good an American as any one else.

The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English- Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian- Americans, or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality than with the other citizens of the American Republic. . . .

I'm glad there are no groups putting some other nation, continent, or ethnicity ahead of "American" when they describe themselves today - they wouldn't be "Americans" at all.

[Tallpine]

I know, no matter how much we dislike our government, I like living in the US. Could you imagine if all the German, French or Irish (and other groups) decided to go back to their tribal roots here and act in retribution to everyone. Would the Germans/Brits/French gang up on the Italians, or the Brits/French go after the Danes/Swedes/Finns/Norwegians?

We have football teams for that 

[Scout26]

is there any concrete evidence that the WMDs came from saddam (i'd guess around the time he sent the planes over) because that would just be the cats pajamas.

No, Syria did manufacture it's own, but there is also strong evidence that Saddam Hussein shipped most of his to Syria in 2003 ahead of US Forces invading Iraq.


If' I'd have to bet, I'd say these were Iraqi WMD's that have been used.

[Boomhauer]

No, Syria did manufacture it's own, but there is also strong evidence that Saddam Hussein shipped most of his to Syria in 2003 ahead of US Forces invading Iraq.


If' I'd have to bet, I'd say these were Iraqi WMD's that have been used.

Oh come on now Iraq's chemical weapons program that did not exist was purely for peaceful farming purposes...