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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2014, 07:55:12 PM »
Hillary has been anointed as the chosen one.  Notice how Bill was the Keynote Speaker at the 2012 DNC??  No way were they going to allow another upstart to steal the nomination from Hillary like what happened in 2008 after Mr. Articulate wowed the audience in 2004.

The NYT just finished their tongue job, so she has some cover for Benghazi.  However, if anyone at the RNC has half a brain they'll re-run her "2am Phone Call" commercials/sound bites and point out  that she didn't answer the phone either.  And I'd pound that point over and over.  Same with Obamacare, "Hillarycare updated."

She's the RNC's dream opponent, if they play it right.   All they have to do is make her out to be every guys ex-wife and they can take the election. 
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2014, 08:30:21 AM »
Would never happen.  Both Hillarycare and Obamacare share one thing in common.  It has nothing to do with medical care and is all about generating cash flow for fed.gov.

No, it's not. It has to do with having the government in charge of people's lives. It has nothing to do with money. (It is (and will be) a net loser in "cash flow")

It's not necessarily because the liberals enjoy power. (Though the ones in power certainly do.) It is because they are certain that too many people won't make the correct choices and beneficent government must "put them on the right path."

Through force. For their own good, of course. This is, decidedly, WORSE than if they were simply power-hunger tyrants:

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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2014, 10:34:35 AM »
And this is why Republicans have to play identity politics.

It's stupid. It's ugly. It's detrimental to the country's unity and future.

It also, clearly, works. Republicans need to run a woman, simply for the fact that she is a woman (which, I know, is sexist, but apparently women don't care if people are sexist in favor of women), in order to take away the "HISTORIC FIRST!!11!!11!" that the Democrats will be running on.

It's still not a lock for the Republicans to win in that case, but at least it takes one of the arrows out of the Democrat identity politics quiver.
The problem is the people who respond to identity politics don't vote Republican anyway.  Too many of the people who might vote Republican would be a bit disgusted by it. 

Unless you mean Sarah Palin.  I'd vote for her.
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2014, 10:37:19 AM »
I don't think Christie has enough broad support in the GOP to get the nomination, but I can see the stupid GOP money guys thinking he is "moderate" and therefore somehow able to get mythical independent voters.

I think Benghazi really tarnishes whatever "experience" Hillary has, but I have a feeling the same idiots who advised Romney will tell the GOP guy to be nice and not mention it thereby dooming his chances.
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2014, 11:01:54 AM »
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2014, 11:22:35 AM »
I don't think Christie has enough broad support in the GOP to get the nomination, but I can see the stupid GOP money guys thinking he is "moderate" and therefore somehow able to get mythical independent voters.

I have to sadly, disagree. He may not have broad support across the GOP, but I think he has broad support among the GOP demographics that "count" for those GOP money guys. I watch a lot of business shows, and the Wall Street guys mostly seem to love him. So it is with a lot of urban Republican's who are essentially RINOs, since they mostly care about fiscal stuff and also don't mind rules and regulations as long as they hurt the other guy.

When we analyze this stuff on APS, we have to remember that we're a small (but growing) segment of the political spectrum. While I would classify the majority of people here as "Republitarians", even the staunchest "mainstream" Republican on this forum is an outlier Tea party wacko to your average Republican (aka RINO). And most of the rest of us are Wookie suit wearing cheetos eaters. While we see "pops" in the MSM about Rand Paul's popularity, in the end it still comes down to, "Yeah, he appeals to those idealists, but guys like Christie are what the R's need to bring in the votes."

If it's not Christie, it'll be someone not unlike him. Though I do predict that Rand Paul will make a good show in the primaries and cause a lot of heartburn to the "GOP mainstream".
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2014, 11:49:53 AM »
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2014, 03:24:47 PM »
Hillary throws her hat in the ring

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3b.htm

And It looks more and more like Christie is interested in the job as well

http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/packaging-a-president-christie-s-rollout-models-clinton-bush-and-obama-20131111

I can see the Stupid party running Christie. I'm not sure the Obama-nation will let Hillary in the door.

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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2014, 04:22:09 PM »
Excuse me while I go hang myself in the barn.

You don't have a barn....
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2014, 04:27:49 PM »
You don't have a barn....

Or at the very least, you didn't build it!

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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2014, 04:48:55 PM »
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2014, 05:46:28 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/08/Christie-Port-Authority-traffic

What a low-class thug.  Petty mobster-wannabe.

I was just going to post this.  the skeletons rise early with this one.
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2014, 05:56:23 PM »
I was just going to post this.  the skeletons rise early with this one.

Well you don't get to be the Governer of New Jersey without being a Democrat, even if there is an R next to your name...

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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2014, 06:45:13 PM »
 crooks are crooks regardless of their party.
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2014, 07:40:40 PM »
You don't have a barn....

Isn't there a drain plug in the boat  ???  =|
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2014, 11:45:37 PM »
I'd vote for Hillary out of the the two, the sooner we get this party started, the sooner it will be over.
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2014, 09:20:35 AM »
I'd vote for Hillary out of the the two, the sooner we get this party started, the sooner it will be over.

Christie would probably be more damaging.
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2014, 09:51:10 AM »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/08/Christie-Port-Authority-traffic

What a low-class thug.  Petty mobster-wannabe.

I actually saw that on NBC Nooz (might not see it if it was a democrat doing it) this morning. Doesn't bother me though, I'd sooner get rid of Crispy ASAP.
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2014, 10:00:22 AM »
I'd prefer the Dems have control of all three branches of govnm't when this thing crashes and burns.

Let the folks have what they want good and hard, as the quote goes.
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2014, 04:01:28 PM »
I was just going to post this.  the skeletons rise early with this one.
He should simply say "what difference, at this point, does it make?" That makes it all okay.

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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2014, 07:08:12 PM »
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/01/08/Christie-Port-Authority-traffic

What a low-class thug.  Petty mobster-wannabe.

:snort: New Joisey. Whad'ja expect? :snort:

And, of course, he's pulling a Sergeant Schulz: "I know nussing!"
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #46 on: January 09, 2014, 07:24:41 PM »
He should simply say "what difference, at this point, does it make?" That makes it all okay.


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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #47 on: January 09, 2014, 07:52:15 PM »
And, of course, he's pulling a Sergeant Schulz: "I know nussing!"


Seems to be working for Obama.
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Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #48 on: January 09, 2014, 09:06:33 PM »
I'd prefer the Dems have control of all three branches of govnm't when this thing crashes and burns.


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Re: Re: Hillary V. Christie 2016?
« Reply #49 on: January 09, 2014, 11:01:39 PM »
The msm sure latched on to this harder than the irs abuses.
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