5th Circuit Puts Kibosh on Texas Voter ID Law

[Ben]

Thanks Obama.

Their arguments was seriously that "low income", black, and hispanic voters (apparently as three separate groups) could not obtain one of the seven options? There were free options. How is that a financial burden?

Maybe it's time for our side to start doing things like getting mail-in ballots for our dogs. I know my dog would make a more informed choice than 50% of the current voting public.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/07/20/federal-appeals-court-orders-changes-to-texas-voter-id-law.html

[wmenorr67]

How many of them have ID to cash checks?

[RoadKingLarry]

How many of them have ID to cash welfare checks?

FTFY.

Of course I guess now all that comes on some kind of credit card type thing.

[wmenorr67]

FTFY.

Of course I guess now all that comes on some kind of credit card type thing.

Or go to Western Union or WallyWorld to get wire transfers.

[Fly320s]

Hmmm......so financial hardship is enough to strike down the law, even though there are free options.  What are the odds that financial hardship could be used to strike down NFA '34?   I know, the odds are a Eleventy Billion to .000001.

[Hawkmoon]

Saw an article just yesterday about places in the last election where well over 100 percent of registered votoers "voted" in the election. Possibly not a coincidence that they were all places where voter ID is not required.

I don't get it. I'm 72 years old. I registered to vote as soon as I was eligible. As well as I can recall, I have always been required to show proof of ID when I vote. I don't have any problem with that -- why would I? If I were to show up late in the day and get turned away because somebody else already voted using my name, I'd be pretty upset.

In my town, there's a registrar from each party sitting at a table when voters walk in. We show ID, and each registrar finds the name on a printed list and uses a ruler and a pen to draw a line through that name. Having 115 percent of registered voters vote would be impossible. I find it unconscionable that it's not that way everywhere.

[HankB]

Saw an article just yesterday about places in the last election where well over 100 percent of registered votoers "voted" in the election. Possibly not a coincidence that they were all places where voter ID is not required.

Same thing happened in MN during the recounts that handed victory to Al Franken.

It doesn't actually matter who votes.

What matters, is who COUNTS the votes.

Last POTUS election, there were news reports that 59 precincts in, IIRC, Philadelphia voted for Obama over Romney by a margin of 19,605 to 0; nobody voted for Romney even by mistake.

They must have had some of Ferdinand Marcos' voting officials . . .

[K Frame]

But but but but but...

Voter fraud has NEVER happened in the US!

NEVER!

Or so all the Facebook memes say.

[Fitz]

honestly, we need to just start using this *expletive deleted*it against them.

get as many illegals and dead people to vote against hilldawg as possible.

If we have trouble overcoming the margin of fraud, maybe it's time to fight fire with fire.

[RevDisk]

And yet I am required to show ID to buy alcohol, fly on a plane, purchase a firearm, etc. Granted, only purchasing a firearm is a right, but why does that require ID but voting doesn't? Politicians tend to kill significantly more people than your average citizen.

[Ben]

And yet I am required to show ID to buy alcohol, fly on a plane, purchase a firearm, etc. Granted, only purchasing a firearm is a right, but why does that require ID but voting doesn't? Politicians tend to kill significantly more people than your average citizen.

Another interesting place(s) that you have to show ID where, while you don't have a God given right to enter, you have a right as a citizen: Most government buildings serving the public.

If I want to interact with the government bureaucracy that my tax dollars pay for, I have to show ID. Either at the front door for security, and/or at whichever office I'm doing business with inside. How is that not the same burdensome discrimination against the poor and whatever other groups?

If I don't have to prove my identity to vote, I don't have to prove my identity to interact with the government I pay for in other ways either.

Also, kind of an analogy --  I went fishing in a National Park last week and showed my annual interagency pass at the gate. They made me show my drivers license as well to prove that the interagency pass was mine. So I had to prove that I was me to get into a National Park, but I don't have to prove I'm me to get my ballot and vote.