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The curse of the flat tire
« on: June 14, 2006, 08:41:53 PM »
Ten flat tires in one year!  My tale of woe follows.

The wife and I got married 30 April, last year.  We took a rental car on our honeymoon trip, and it's a good thing, because her old Ford Escort blew a head gasket and my truck's engine gave up just as soon as we got back.  The truck has over 300,000 on it and drank a lot of oil, so no surprise there.  Daddy was already rebuilding a new engine for me.  Of course the Escort was no surprise - it's a Ford.  

A friend loaned me her truck; it's her second car and she loans it out a lot.  We were driving her back home in a light rain, when the tires locked up and I rear-ended a guy.  Now the loaner car from my dad was inop, so we were back to one car.  I drove my wife all the way across St. Louis County every morning, and then back to my job which was ten minutes away from the house.  Of course I had to make the same trip in reverse every night; all four trips in rush-hour traffic.  I had to have the truck for work, so there was no way to do things the other way.  Fortunately, gas prices were lower back then.  We found a gem of a little old Buick later on, so we were happy again.  

Then a rear tire on the loaner truck went ABSOLUTELY DEAD FLAT.  With all lug nuts removed, the wheel refused to budge - rusted on.  Penetrants and brute force were of no avail, but it finally came off when I put the lug nuts back on, loosely, and drove it forward a few feet.  Except that with characteristic absent-mindedness, I forgot to put the lug nuts on at all!  So, the wheel fell off almost completely.  Amazingly, the threads were only slightly damaged, so I was able to crank the nuts back on when I got the spare installed.  With some help from Daddy, and his tap and die set, the threads cleaned up nicely, and we were now in good shape.  I got a used tire as a replacement.  I had the loaner truck for several months until mine was ready again.  I have great friends, no?

When I got the GMC back from good old Dad, he told me the tires were shot.  So I went on down to the local grease-monkey shop and got a set of four used tires that looked alright.  So far, they have been.  But they kept coming unglued!  It seems my aluminum rims had some manner of corrosion or corruption or some such that prevented a good seal.  One by one, they all went ABSOLUTELY DEAD FLAT, until eventually, all of them were re-glued.  I could park my truck for twenty minutes, with one of the tires turned the wrong way, and come back to find a completely flat tire where an inflated one had been before.  But eventually, all these problems were ironed out.  

Then about two months ago, we noticed a severe vibration in the Buick's steering wheel.  Bubble on the tire, counseled Daddy, and indeed it was so.  Big, obvious, couldn't miss it.  Replaced that one with another used tire.  We're up to six flat tires now.

At this point, the truck's 300,000 mile plus transmission goes out.  Just as I had loaded it up with someone's furniture to help them move, it decided it didn't want to go anywhere.  Off-loaded the stuff and we call Daddy.  The wife picked me up and we went to buy some 1/2" drills.  Went to the gun store to kill time until Daddy arrived.  We meet back at the truck and Daddy has his tow bar, and I my drill.  After making some holes in the bumper, we attach the tow-bar and Dad tows us back home.  Quite a sight, that.  A rusty, dishevelled old '55 Chevy flatbed towing a nice, shiny '89.  Then it took an even older Ford tractor to get it up the gravel driveway and into Daddy's shop.  My Daddy has neat old toys.  But he doesn't have the tools needed to rebuild a transmission, so he had to trade it for a rebuild which he installed.  Back to the old routine of taking the wife to work and picking her up again, though with better gas mileage this time.

Meanwhile, the wife and I went down into the country to camp out for our anniversary.  She wanted to camp out somewhere near our gun club's range, so we could shoot.  No lie - magnificent woman.  We were almost there when we had a blowout and had to pull over.  A twisty, hilly road, with very little shoulder, and we had no time to find a driveway or parking lot.  The little Century was packed to the gills, but the whole trunk had to be emptied to get to the donut.  When we got back on the road, after repacking the trunk, we took it to a dealership just down the road and had to shell out for a brand new tire.  On Friday afternoon, in unfamiliar territory, with shooting light fading, we needed to get on the road as soon as possible.  

The camping trip was another disaster, involving rain, sickness, frustration and the gun I had just bought, which it turned out I had seriously damaged - through an honest and understandable mistake on my part.  

At this point, I was ready to replace the remaining tires before they also blew out.  But before I got around to it - another blow-out, another tire ABSOLUTELY DEAD FLAT!  This time I had two more used tires put on, and everything should have been fine.  But there was a curious rattling noise.  Daddy diagnosed it as a shot harmonic balancer, and replaced it with a minimum of trouble.  The next few days, we noticed another vibration in the steering wheel, and a sound like something clunking forward and back under inertia.  Daddy loosened the right front cradle to get to the balancer, and forgot to snug it back up!  

Tonight we had one more ABSOLUTELY DEAD FLAT tire; bad valve stem.  My wife wanted to change it, so I drove out there and coached her through her first time.  Felt like a heel everytime someone drove by.  Smiley  The good news is that a tire shop fixed it for free, and we got to skip the dorky Bible college choir that was invading our Wed. night church service.  I am not a fan of Southern Gospel.  

Anyway, thanks for letting me vent, and how was your day?
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The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2006, 01:27:09 AM »
what would you do without Daddy ...?  Tongue


We need a new federal Dept of Flat Tires, or maybe just add it to HEW.  No one should have to be stranded with a flat tire - think of the poor children.  All we have to do is raise the taxes on some rich SOB to fund a govt service to go around and rescue people with flat tires.  Transportation is a human right!

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The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2006, 01:31:20 AM »
Gee, I haven't had a flat tire in years. (Knocks on wooden head) Cheesy
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The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2006, 08:17:53 AM »
The last flat tire I had was in 1990.

The retard who lived in the apartment above mine decided to do some work on his crapmobile.

He got MOST of the sheet metal screws he dropped into the parking area.

I found the other two several weeks apart.
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The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2006, 08:34:58 AM »
I hunt/fish/camp a lot or a least try too.

I get 1-2 flat tires a year, mostly from picking up nails or other pieces of metal on gravel roads.

I run as long on my tires until the tread wears down or air starts to leak out the weather checks. Usually the later is on the boat trailer. So I am not immune to spontaneous flat tires.  

One time I kept thinking about getting new tires on my S-10 until I took a corner too fast and blew a tire. Tread was worn down so much that the friction of the turn ripped the tire in half down the middle. Luckily I grew up driving on loose gravel and greasy mud roads so I was able to keep the truck under control.  I pay more attention to the wear markers on tires now and replace in a timely manner.

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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2006, 04:18:42 PM »
what would you do without Daddy ...?  Tongue
  I'd spend a whole lot of dough on car repairs.
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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2006, 06:44:39 PM »
Used tires suck.  There's a reason the former owner(s) didn't want those tires on their vehicles.  You get what you pay for. 

Sorry to hear about your tribulations.

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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2006, 06:50:43 PM »
The tires themselves have been fine.  The problem on my truck was the aluminum rims.  The problem with my wife's car was that the old tires were just old.  The one bad valve was - just one bad valve. 
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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2006, 07:05:11 PM »
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We need a new federal Dept of Flat Tires, or maybe just add it to HEW.  No one should have to be stranded with a flat tire - think of the poor children.  All we have to do is raise the taxes on some rich SOB to fund a govt service to go around and rescue people with flat tires.  Transportation is a human right!

Ironically, the conservative Texas Road Department has a department exactly devoted to that. Texas road departments have professionals  with emergency  lights, driving around in major metro areas looking for broken down vehicles to Jump-start or change tires on, just to keep the traffic flow going along.
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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2006, 03:20:17 AM »
I'd rather give my hard-earned dollars to a bank than mechanics and tire sellers and transmission so-called "experts."

Any way you slice and dice it, cars are horrendously expensive. If I were mechanically inclined, I might buy used cars in the hope of saving money, but wouldn't be at all surprised to discover I poured in just as much money, plus labor. My latest new car is a 2000 Acura Integra. At 68,000 miles, the cigarette lighter has died. That's been it, other than oil changes, of course, a radiator flush and fill, and two tune-ups.

I'd have traded it in three or four years ago, (keeping a black car looking even halfway presentable is impossible,) save that every time I started to look at new cars, I ended up having to talk with car salesman, and got disgusted and walked out.
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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2006, 03:24:39 AM »

Ironically, the conservative Texas Road Department has a department exactly devoted to that. Texas road departments have professionals  with emergency  lights, driving around in major metro areas looking for broken down vehicles to Jump-start or change tires on, just to keep the traffic flow going along.

St. Louis has that, too.  The really ironic thing is that my auto insurer just started providing AAA-type service a few months ago, right after most of my flat tire troubles.  I didn't think to take advantage of it last week, though. 
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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2006, 05:07:10 AM »
My "Great White Whale" is a 2000 GMC PU.  I bought it in 2004 and have put some 55,000 miles on it since its original 50K.

Those big ol' 16" tires are $100 per each.  I replace them a tad before the Texas minimum requirement of 1/8" of tread.  Why?  Simple:  Yeah, I could get another month or three of use, and defer spending the dough.  So?

What's the hassle and misery aspect if a flat's on a rainy day--and maybe on a dirt road?  Or I'm sitting there vulnerable to some idiot driver or idiot Bad Guy?  Or the cost if that nearly-slick tire lets me slide into some sort of Bad Problem?

"Penny-wise and pound-foolish" is a very ancient saying.  I ain't gonna be pound foolish.

Old tired used cars?  Hey, I was able to retire early on account of buying stuff with bad motors, rebuilding and fixing and later re-selling for a profit.  The money I didn't spend on new cars or with some mechanic-guy gave me the $$$ to pay on rent houses and bits of acreage.  That extra $200 to $300 a month over some twenty-plus years made a difference, for sure.  Not bad for an office-worker guy. Cheesy

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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2006, 05:39:48 AM »
yea, the tires on the E-250 are starting to show their age.  That not be cheap. sad
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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2006, 09:22:30 AM »
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All we have to do is raise the taxes on some rich SOB to fund a govt service to go around and rescue people with flat tires.
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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2006, 01:30:06 PM »
I haven't had a flat tire on a car in a long time. My wife's car had a slow leak, but I managed to get it to the gas station and fully inflate, then take it to a garage to have the tire fixed.

I've had a couple of flats on my motorcycle. One was when I'd just come out of the east end of the Eisenhower tunnel on I-70 in Colorado, and found myself in a hail storm. It was like riding on marbles. Once the hail stopped, I noticed the front end was still funky. Looked down, and the tire was flat. No Harley dealers in the area, and the Jap bike shops wouldn't touch a wire wheel. So I had to have the bike flat-bedded to Denver. Sad

The other flat wasn't as expensive. I was at Bryce Canyon, and noticed a small nail in my tire. Uncertain whether it had punctured the inner tube, I figured my best bet was to get to a cycle shop. So, over the mountain on Hwy 14 to Cedar City. Got to a cycle shop, and the mechanic pulled the nail out. Ssssssssss. Went flat immediately. Glad I didn't pull the nail when I was in the park.

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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2006, 02:45:37 PM »
I need 4 new snow tires for my truck.

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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2006, 03:00:50 PM »
The last flat I had was over a year ago.  I got a screw in the sidewall.  Since I knew I was going to be buying tires soon, but didn't have time to bother for the next few weeks, I used one of those tire plug kits.  Yeah, in the sidewall.  I left a bit of the plug sticking out and ended up driving for another 3 months like that.  No slow leak or anything.

I keep a plug kit, a can or two of fix-a-flat, and an air compressor in each vehicle (along with a spare of course).

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« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2006, 04:16:17 PM »
If you use fix a flat ALWAYS tell the guy who's going to break the tire off the rim afterward so he doesn't get a face or eye(s) full when the seal pops. I had to learn that the hard way. They get mad...  shocked
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Re: The curse of the flat tire
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2006, 04:18:10 AM »
A few years back, we had a hail storm that did a number on shingles for a wide swath.  For tow years, we'd get a nail in a tire every other month & never wore a tire out'cause evey once in a while the nail puncture was unrepairable.
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