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Title: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: MillCreek on November 22, 2014, 10:19:02 AM
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ecc3a300383445d5a90dd6ca764c9e15/house-intel-panel-debunks-many-benghazi-theories

The findings are consistent with the six previous investigations.

Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: RocketMan on November 22, 2014, 10:28:48 AM
Dark conspiracies?  No.  Efforts to cover up failures due to incompetence or just an outright lack of concern?  Yes.
Something could have been done, support or rescue missions at least attempted.  Would anything like that have ultimately been successful in keeping our people alive?  No one will ever know.  But at the very least the effort should have been made to help our citizens when they were in trouble. But nothing was done, not a damn thing.  Someone should be held accountable for that.
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: TommyGunn on November 22, 2014, 12:50:04 PM
Dark conspiracies?  No.  Efforts to cover up failures due to incompetence or just an outright lack of concern?  Yes.
Something could have been done, support or rescue missions at least attempted.  Would anything like that have ultimately been successful in keeping our people alive?  No one will ever know.  But at the very least the effort should have been made to help our citizens when they were in trouble. But nothing was done, not a damn thing.  Someone should be held accountable for that.

And that LAST PART is what has always bugged me about this event.
Alan Colmes, on Fox News always whined "where's the scandal?"  when the subject was discussed.  Colmes, famous for making up strawman arguments, always somehow kept missing the point.
Perhaps the "scandal" was the attempt to "dismiss" a terrorist attack as a "protest gone awgly" over some dumb youtube video that supposedly insulted Islam.
Who called off the military rescue?  Why?   Remembering that during the event, they had no idea how long the event would last so claiming they did not have the time is 20-20 hindsight reasoning.   Or excuse-making.

Tring to access thar sight gave me a blank white page with a header .... so I guess nothing new was really learned, or learnable.
Sorta like asking why did Custer lose the Battle of the Little Bighorn?  "Because the Indians won." [tinfoil]


Yea .... sorta figured that.


 [popcorn]
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: Waitone on November 22, 2014, 02:36:29 PM
We will see!  Time will tell.  I withhold judgement until I hear testimony from military commanders relieved of duty because they ACTED first.  Too many stories of lower ranking worker-bees expecting to act and being told to stand down by unidentified boss-bees.  I am predisposed to believe what comes out of Trey Gowdy's investigation as closer to reality than other investigations for the simple reason power protects power regardless of the trappings of "impartiality'.  I want Ms Clinton under oath in front of cameras.  I want to know why the producer of the famed video is still in the lockup. 
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: Hawkmoon on November 22, 2014, 10:47:32 PM
I want Ms Clinton under oath in front of cameras.

"At this point, what difference does it make?"

She'll lie anyway. Oaths don't mean anything to pathological liars -- or politicians. (But I repeat myself.)
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: Jamisjockey on November 23, 2014, 09:43:25 AM
Nevermind whether we could have or should have helped, rescued or done anything about our people.

It's like everyone has forgotten all about the cover up.  Spontaneous protests and all that noise.  What happened to all the youtube video bullshit?  Evidence of this being a carefully planned attack?
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: Ben on November 23, 2014, 10:39:15 AM
Nevermind whether we could have or should have helped, rescued or done anything about our people.

It's like everyone has forgotten all about the cover up.  Spontaneous protests and all that noise.  What happened to all the youtube video bullshit?  Evidence of this being a carefully planned attack?

And the fact that the Administration and its enablers seemed to care less and do less about the murder of Americans on foreign soil, including an Ambassador, than they did about a strong-arm robber in Ferguson.

US installation attacked and Ambassador murdered? "*expletive deleted*it happens." Bully killed by cop? DOJ priority assignment.
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: Andiron on November 23, 2014, 08:48:32 PM
It gets better.  That jackass from South Carolina has weighed in:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/23/graham-critical-new-gop-house-report-on-benghazi-calls-findings-garbage/

Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: zxcvbob on November 23, 2014, 09:05:48 PM
It gets better.  That jackass from South Carolina has weighed in:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/23/graham-critical-new-gop-house-report-on-benghazi-calls-findings-garbage/


I *hate* it when that happens.  (I agree with Graham)
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: Andiron on November 23, 2014, 09:17:46 PM
I *hate* it when that happens.  (I agree with Graham)

Misread that a bit,  thought he was sticking up for the state dept.

Doesn't change the fact the Graham is an obnoxious RINO.  (Which lead to me assuming he was up to his usual schtick  )
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: Waitone on November 24, 2014, 09:27:56 AM
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Doesn't change the fact the Graham is an obnoxious RINO.  (Which lead to me assuming he was up to his usual schtick  )
  With the good senator from SC, every day is a new day.  Don't like his position on XYZ,  stick around cause it will change in short order. 

I'll never understand how a state like SC can produce such a strong stable of constitutionalists / libertarians like Demint, Gowdy, Mulvaney, Scott, and Sanford and keep electing a klinker like Graham.
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: KD5NRH on November 24, 2014, 09:45:22 AM
Remembering that during the event, they had no idea how long the event would last so claiming they did not have the time is 20-20 hindsight reasoning.   Or excuse-making.

This; if I call the sheriff and report a gunfight in progress, even knowing that it's unlikely to last more than a few seconds and all his deputies are 20 minutes or more away, there will still be a heavily armed response (with EMS staging just out of danger) in as little time as they can manage because they just might have some tiny chance of saving somebody.
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: Scout26 on November 24, 2014, 10:37:33 AM
1)  Cover up and the white house was involved in it.
2)  There was a(t least one) stand down order(s).  Who issued it?
3)  He was there to rent a consoluate?  Bullscat. It was already rented.  And ambassadors don't go signing leases.  There are flunkies to do that.  
4) He met with the Turkish ambassador just prior to the attack.  To discuss what?  The Tobacco trade.
5)  There were at least 20 CIA para-military types at the Annex.  Just what was the other \Annex folks doing?
  
Title: Re: Republican-controlled House Intel Committee issues Benghazi report
Post by: SADShooter on November 24, 2014, 10:53:17 AM
Rep. Rogers' wife heavily involved in a security consulting firm with government contracts, including operations in Libya:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/17/unraveling-benghazi-is-mike-rogers-part-of-the-problem/ (http://dailycaller.com/2014/06/17/unraveling-benghazi-is-mike-rogers-part-of-the-problem/)

ETA: I first heard this discussed yesterday on Fox News.