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Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« on: June 27, 2014, 09:15:34 AM »
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-26/hospitals-soon-see-donuts-to-cigarette-charges-for-health.html

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You may soon get a call from your doctor if you’ve let your gym membership lapse, made a habit of picking up candy bars at the check-out counter or begin shopping at plus-sized stores.

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Under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare, hospital pay is becoming increasingly linked to quality metrics rather than the traditional fee-for-service model where hospitals were paid based on their numbers of tests or procedures.
As a result, the U.S. has begun levying fines against hospitals that have too many patients readmitted within a month, and rewarding hospitals that do well on a benchmark of clinical outcomes and patient surveys.

This has now encouraged me to use cash as much as possible for my transactions.
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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2014, 09:20:53 AM »
Looks like no more swiping the debit card at the bar or liquor store.

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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2014, 09:28:36 AM »
Looks like no more swiping the debit card at the bar or liquor store.

Or the cigar store for the few times a year cigar that will apparently double my health insurance. Cash is king for vices. :)
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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2014, 10:22:26 AM »

I've been using cash for many years, near solely. Only time I use credit cards is for large ticket items of a mundane nature or where there is no alternative. I generally don't discuss why, but I'll toss it out there.

My concern was database trolling. Folks always love predictive indexes or other shortcuts, that crap out metric tons of false positives but people still love for some gods forsaken reason. I worked on some years ago, and never really liked them but imagined they'd become very popular. Which did happen, the new crap IT overhyped mess is "big data", even overshadowing the crap IT term of "cloud". My concern when I started wasn't what was happening then, but what could happen in the future. Not much good if you suddenly stop (actually, that might be considered a flag). So, I took a low footprint approach, betting that people don't do their homework, managers are lazy and folks impressed by shiny. So, I bet crap like predictive indexes for intel or counterintel purposes would become popular because it requires little work (just db feeds), looks shiny and the false positive problem would be overlooked.

While AFAIK, it has not been applied to domestic credit card data, it might someday. Or it might fall into the wrong hands. Or dozens of other hypothetical situations. Again, the problem is, you don't have to be doing anything wrong to look guilty, and all too often we have a guilty until proven innocent environment, even if just in the realm of public opinion or perception.






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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2014, 11:25:53 AM »
My concern was database trolling. Folks always love predictive indexes or other shortcuts, that crap out metric tons of false positives but people still love for some gods forsaken reason.

I wonder how much my ex wife's divorce lawyer would pay for a ticker showing margarine consumption...


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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2014, 11:39:45 AM »
I wonder how much my ex wife's divorce lawyer would pay for a ticker showing margarine consumption...





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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2014, 12:08:38 PM »




"I'd like to know their margarine for error."




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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2014, 12:14:49 PM »
I would be curious how butter consumption fits into that.  Has butter consumption gone up to replace margarine or has it declined also?
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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2014, 03:39:34 PM »
All this courtesy of ObamaCare. 
This has now encouraged me to use cash as much as possible for my transactions.
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O-Care has this covered, too. Seems there's a provision for a barcode type symbol or "mark" as it were that will be placed on one's hand or head that can be scanned so that these details can be tracked in lieu of debit and credit cards.













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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2014, 04:18:33 PM »
All this courtesy of ObamaCare. 
This has now encouraged me to use cash as much as possible for my transactions.


O-Care has this covered, too. Seems there's a provision for a barcode type symbol or "mark" as it were that will be placed on one's hand or head that can be scanned so that these details can be tracked in lieu of debit and credit cards.













JK but since nobody's read the whole thing, who's to say it isn't there.)


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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2014, 09:29:07 PM »
All this courtesy of ObamaCare. 
This has now encouraged me to use cash as much as possible for my transactions.


<paranoia>O-Care has this covered, too. Seems there's a provision for a barcode type symbol or "mark" as it were that will be placed on one's hand or head that can be scanned so that these details can be tracked in lieu of debit and credit cards.</paranoia>

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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2014, 09:36:08 PM »


Those colored spheres around her neck contain the souls of democrat representatives who needed extra cash last election.
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Re: Hospitals are starting to use detailed consumer data
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2014, 11:08:00 PM »
I would be curious how butter consumption fits into that.  Has butter consumption gone up to replace margarine or has it declined also?

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