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If I stand...
« on: September 08, 2007, 12:21:46 PM »
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So if I stand, let me stand on the promise,
That You will pull me through.

And if I can't let me fall on the grace,
That first brought me to You.

If I sing let me sing for the joy,
That has born in me these songs.

But if I weep let it be as a man,
Who is longing for his home.


Who else knows what I'm talkin' about? 



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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2007, 01:01:42 PM »
Whatever it is, you need to quit taking it, and talk to your doctor about it.
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2007, 02:44:31 PM »
Uhhh, I know the song.... Michael W. Smith maybe? Been awhile since I heard it.
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2007, 02:51:44 PM »
Better that they be jars than feet.

Not really my preference though.  My tastes are a bit...darker.

Even for that genre.  grin
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2007, 05:27:26 PM »
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I would be true, for there are those who trust me;
I would be pure, for there are those who care;
I would be strong, for there is much to suffer;
I would be brave, for there is much to dare.

I would be friend of all--the foe, the friendless;
I would be giving, and forget the gift;
I would be humble, for I know my weakness;
I would look up, and laugh, and love and lift.

I would be faithful through each passing moment;
I would be constantly in touch with God;
I would be strong to follow where He leads me;
I would have faith to keep the path Christ trod.

I don't know what you're talking about, but it made me think of this.

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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2007, 07:59:22 PM »
Michael W. Smith?  The Michael Bolton of Christian music?  Please.

Jars of Clay?  Slightly less offensive, but still wrong.  I have a good friend who runs a fan website, but I never bothered to listen to them.  Not even when I saw them in concert.   smiley

That's an oldie but a goodie, sung and co-written by Rich Mullins - one of the few Christian recording artists to have talent, depth and soul.  After semi-retiring from music to teach on an Indian Reservation, he perished in an auto accident.

If any of you know the song only from some hack cover version, I pity you.
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2007, 09:18:20 PM »
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If any of you know the song only from some hack cover version, I pity you.

Humility, my friend.  I am with you, but remember, we are a program of attraction, not promotion. Matt 10:14

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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2007, 03:21:08 AM »
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If any of you know the song only from some hack cover version, I pity you.

Humility, my friend.  I am with you, but remember, we are a program of attraction, not promotion. Matt 10:14


Huh? 
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2007, 06:55:09 AM »
Humility, my friend.  I am with you, but remember, we are a program of attraction, not promotion. Matt 10:14


I see what yer sayin'.
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #9 on: September 09, 2007, 08:17:46 AM »
Humility, my friend.  I am with you, but remember, we are a program of attraction, not promotion. Matt 10:14


I see what yer sayin'.

I'm pickin' up what yer throwin' down....
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #10 on: September 09, 2007, 01:16:20 PM »
Sounds like a couple of people need to read some Kipling and get themselves back in order.
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2007, 01:37:28 PM »
Do you like kipling?
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2007, 02:12:30 PM »

Well, I just didn't know pity was arrogant. 
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #13 on: September 09, 2007, 04:35:13 PM »
I went to a Christian death metal concert once. It was aight. (given that I'm an atheist and not much of a metal person, much less death metal)
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« Reply #14 on: September 09, 2007, 06:03:30 PM »
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given that I'm an atheist and not much of a metal person, much less death metal)

You probably mean 'agnostic', since it takes as much (or more) faith to be an atheist than a believer.  smiley

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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2007, 06:32:23 PM »
Oh no, trust me, I'm an atheist. I spent many years calling myself an agnostic - the 'ag' is less off-putting for folks and my basic attitude is that I don't care. (The existence or non-existence of higher beings simply doesn't factor into my moral/philosophical/physical/whatever framework.)

But the truth is that I can in no way conceive of the existence of a god or gods and harbor not the tiniest bit of suspicion that higher powers or spirits (both in the sense of ghosts and souls) might exist.

Agnostics are the wishy-washy center of our eternal culture war.  grin
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2007, 06:38:55 PM »
huh. I'd think that a smart guy like you would go with Pascal's Wager.

go figure............

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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2007, 06:42:32 PM »
I never got Pascal's Wager.

Treating religious belief as a game of odds... isn't that just the exact same thing from God's vantage point as not believing at all? If you require the wager, then you inherently don't buy into His existence. Never added up in my mind.
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2007, 07:26:37 PM »
I've heard some Christian metal, but Christian death metal seems oxymoronic, don't it?   smiley

Unless it's all about mortification of the flesh.   cheesy
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2007, 07:54:18 PM »
The only band I remember from that particular lineup was Embodyment - I knew the original bass player, though I never thought to ask him what the lyrics actually were. (they went on to sign with some national Christian label and had a decent career up through this decade, though the guy I knew quit after their first tour)

I spent many a night at that same youth-oriented church/club (God's Place, catchy) flirting with churchgoing girls with blue hair and nose piercings. Not a lot of options for all-ages punk (and this being the mid-90s... ska) shows back then in North Texas.

Kind of sad that I never visited the Christian rave room they had in a separate building.
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2007, 07:56:16 PM »
There are plenty of church-going girls with blue hair.  They just happen to be octogenarians.   smiley
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2007, 08:02:03 PM »
Central IV lines are not technically 'piercings,' though.
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #22 on: September 09, 2007, 08:10:27 PM »
Ah, you're just close-minded. 
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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2007, 07:53:13 AM »
Oh no, trust me, I'm an atheist. I spent many years calling myself an agnostic - the 'ag' is less off-putting for folks and my basic attitude is that I don't care. (The existence or non-existence of higher beings simply doesn't factor into my moral/philosophical/physical/whatever framework.)

The term you're looking for is "Apatheist".  It means exactly what you're saying, and it actually sounds legitimate enough for people who aren't paying close attention.

A close second is "Frisbeetarian"; if you say it quickly it sounds a lot like "Presbyterian", but it's the belief that when we die, our souls go up and get stuck on the roof.

Back in the day, I used to listen to a band called "Seventh Angel".  I think they might qualify as Christian Death Metal, fistful...

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Re: If I stand...
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2007, 12:11:04 AM »
Oh jeez, I can't believe I missed this thread until I opened it this morning...

It's "If I Stand" by the classic Rich Mullins!   <-belated correct answer

"My Deliverer" and "Awesome God" are both also outstanding if you are a Rich Mullins fan.  I like Rich Mullins because he's an excellent departure from the "God is my girlfriend" genre of contemporary Christian music.  His songs have a lot of depth and meaning.

As a footnote, he was also a devout and simple Christian.  He never became wealthy off his music career.  I actually looked him up on Wikipedia and found out that he gave almost all of his profits (less a small salary) to charity.