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Title: NICS (the TV show) and Operation Fast and Furious
Post by: vaskidmark on April 08, 2015, 12:32:01 PM
I don't watch the show - too much BS/FU to sit through and no, Abbey is not worth spending all that time grinding my teeth/barfing/yelling at the set to oogle.  But thanks to Miguel I just might have to watch last night's episode.

http://gunfreezone.net/wordpress/index.php/2015/04/08/atf-beaten-like-a-cheap-rented-mule-in-ncis/

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Imagine my surprise when Jethro Gibbs mentions the magic words “Operation Fast and Furious.” But I composed myself knowing that it was just a passing reference and nothing more would be said…

And then they pulled out the baseball bats.

stay safe.
Title: Re: NICS (the TV show) and Operation Fast and Furious
Post by: TommyGunn on April 08, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
Yeah ... They sure bored down on the "stupidity" of the BATmen in that episode.
I think it was well deserved ....
OTOH I have not been overly impressed by NCIS shows recently.  They brought back Robert Wagner as DiNozzo Senior last night and he's always good for a grin. 
But otherwise,  "meh."
I think at  maybe a decade old now NCIS has had its run ....  =|
Title: Re: NICS (the TV show) and Operation Fast and Furious
Post by: Ben on April 08, 2015, 01:18:09 PM
I did not see last night's episode. I used to like NCIS, their "father gov is best" stuff aside. It was also easier to put that stuff aside in previous seasons because they didn't emphasize it so much. The last couple of seasons, they've really gone full bore on "guns outside of LE hands are evil", having the typical "gun show whacko" episode, and a bunch of other stuff that just seems way off what would be needed for the script. Way too political.

While they still kind of push a "rah military" theme, it has become kind of an "us vs them" theme. Much different than say "24", which I know many here didn't like because of the "govt agent torturing people" stuff.  I could overlook that in "24" because they really made it a part of the plot and storyline, versus the political messages I've seen out of NCIS of late.

Edit: just read the episode synopsis at the link. I'll need to watch the episode and maybe will need to eat my words (though I am still unhappy with the anti-gun messages I've seen in past episodes).
Title: Re: NICS (the TV show) and Operation Fast and Furious
Post by: Regolith on April 08, 2015, 06:35:48 PM
I did not see last night's episode. I used to like NCIS, their "father gov is best" stuff aside. It was also easier to put that stuff aside in previous seasons because they didn't emphasize it so much. The last couple of seasons, they've really gone full bore on "guns outside of LE hands are evil", having the typical "gun show whacko" episode, and a bunch of other stuff that just seems way off what would be needed for the script. Way too political.

While they still kind of push a "rah military" theme, it has become kind of an "us vs them" theme. Much different than say "24", which I know many here didn't like because of the "govt agent torturing people" stuff.  I could overlook that in "24" because they really made it a part of the plot and storyline, versus the political messages I've seen out of NCIS of late.

Edit: just read the episode synopsis at the link. I'll need to watch the episode and maybe will need to eat my words (though I am still unhappy with the anti-gun messages I've seen in past episodes).

I watched it last night. No completely stupid anti-gun stuff aside from the usual automatic "check to see if the gun was registered" thing (which is fine if it's in DC, but the shooting took place in VA, IIRC).

They really went after the ATF. Aside from DiNozzo's ATF agent girlfriend ( ;/), they're uniformly shown to be incompetent asses who will obstruct a murder investigation in order to save face.
Title: Re: NICS (the TV show) and Operation Fast and Furious
Post by: Firethorn on April 08, 2015, 10:27:30 PM
I watched it last night. No completely stupid anti-gun stuff aside from the usual automatic "check to see if the gun was registered" thing (which is fine if it's in DC, but the shooting took place in VA, IIRC).

I just had a thought about this.  What if they're not checking the state registration system, but a registry of guns reported stolen, manufacturer warranty records, etc...?  It doesn't have to be a universal government registry, after all.

Heck it could be a shorthand for 'see if we have any information on this firearm in the computer'.
Title: Re: NICS (the TV show) and Operation Fast and Furious
Post by: Hawkmoon on April 08, 2015, 10:55:44 PM
I just had a thought about this.  What if they're not checking the state registration system, but a registry of guns reported stolen, manufacturer warranty records, etc...?  It doesn't have to be a universal government registry, after all.

Heck it could be a shorthand for 'see if we have any information on this firearm in the computer'.

Maybe.

Is that what you believe the average viewer thinks of when he hears "See if the gun is registered"?
Title: Re: NICS (the TV show) and Operation Fast and Furious
Post by: RoadKingLarry on April 09, 2015, 12:40:37 AM
I regularly encounter people that think all guns everywhere have to be registered.
I generally try to educate them but I'll rapidly disengage when I encounter willful stupidity.
Title: Re: NICS (the TV show) and Operation Fast and Furious
Post by: wmenorr67 on April 09, 2015, 06:33:35 AM
Hell it is a TV show meant to entertain.  99% of the dribble being put on TV and in movies anymore are just as stupid.

I watch TV to be entertained and/or just for background noise.  I could really care less about the politics being pushed.  99% of the people watching the damn shows don't know any better and never will because of what the MSM  [barf] every single day.

Title: Re: NICS (the TV show) and Operation Fast and Furious
Post by: vaskidmark on April 09, 2015, 07:56:47 AM
I respectfully disagree.  Well, me and Dr. Goebbles.

When the MSM puts forward a piece of entertainment (something not overtly labled as "news") that skewers a government agency it is what the folks in the Drama Dept. call foreshadowing.

Somebody made sure that it would be safe for the show and the network to do a hit piece.

The thing to do now is watch to see how many other MSM entertainment outlets climb on the bandwagon and how loudly they shout.

stay safe.