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Title: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: 230RN on March 20, 2016, 06:08:17 AM
Win7 64-bit Version 6.1.7101
HP G72 laptop.
External USB Keyboard and Mouse.
New behavior (a week or so that I've noticed it):

Update downloaded

I immediately start either Quick or Full scan.

Scan stops when I press the either the external Keyboard space bar or the one on the laptop, returns to opening MSE screen.  (Stops the scan.)  Does not seem to stop the scan when other keys hit.

Essentially, this means I cannot have MSE run in the background, since as soon as I enter any text and hit the spacebar, I kill the scan.

I do not want to go to Win10 yet.

Hints as to what's goofy, please?

Terry, 230RN
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: Hawkmoon on March 20, 2016, 12:18:43 PM
Hints as to what's goofy, please?

Microsoft?
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: 230RN on March 20, 2016, 12:59:51 PM
^ LOLz.

Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: HeroHog on March 20, 2016, 01:25:26 PM
MSE is now not even recommended by MS. Get Avast or something along those lines. I use Avast on my laptops and AVG on my Media Center laptop (free editions on all the antivirus). I use two different ones because AVG Free lets me scan my SAN volumes and AVAST has features I like if you only want it to schedule local scans and protect against mail and web intrusion. Yeah, it's a little "naggy" wanting ya to upgrade to the paid version with "features" I don't want but not enough so to irritate me into paying to make it go away and trust me, my tolerance level for that carp is low.
 :old:
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: Calumus on March 21, 2016, 06:09:03 PM
Try Bitdefender. Register once, and you're done.
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: cordex on March 21, 2016, 08:22:52 PM
Try Bitdefender. Register once, and you're done.
This is what I recommend now.
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 15, 2016, 02:22:53 PM
Having used MSE on all my Windows boxen for some years now, it felt very odd to get rid of it. Having looked into the rankings given by various tech websites, I went with Avira's free version. (Free AV has always worked for me.)
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: Ben on April 15, 2016, 03:32:02 PM
Having used MSE on all my Windows boxen for some years now, it felt very odd to get rid of it. Having looked into the rankings given by various tech websites, I went with Avira's free version. (Free AV has always worked for me.)

 I really liked it when it first came out. I thought it was one of Microsoft's best products. Did a great job with absolutely minimal resource drain. I wish they would have continued it.
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 15, 2016, 07:55:13 PM
I really liked it when it first came out. I thought it was one of Microsoft's best products. Did a great job with absolutely minimal resource drain. I wish they would have continued it.

I guess they want us to move on to a newer OS, that comes with Windows Defender.


MSE is now not even recommended by MS.

Really?

http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/goodbye-microsoft-security-essentials-microsoft-now-recommends-you-use-a-third-party-antivirus/

It's still advertised on their web site as "The best brains and brawn in the background."

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security-essentials-product-information#tabs1=overview
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: Ben on April 15, 2016, 08:01:42 PM
I guess they want us to move on to a newer OS, that comes with Windows Defender.


Really?

http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/goodbye-microsoft-security-essentials-microsoft-now-recommends-you-use-a-third-party-antivirus/

It's still advertised on their web site as "The best brains and brawn in the background."

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security-essentials-product-information#tabs1=overview

http://lifehacker.com/microsoft-admits-that-third-party-antivirus-is-more-eff-1441135677

Microsoft appears to have a split personality.
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 15, 2016, 10:20:15 PM
From the article I posted:

Quote
Update: Microsoft has now released a statement, saying “We believe in Microsoft antimalware products and strongly recommend them to our customers, to our friends, and to our families.” Their statement unfortunately doesn’t directly address Holly Stewart’s comments...

Sort of a back-pedal, I guess.

FWIW, at the websites I looked at, MSE is still not getting very good marks. I looked at AV-Test, Toms Hardware, and one other one (maybe LifeHacker?). I think AVG, BitDefender, Kaspersky, Avira, and Panda were some of the top recommendations.

It would be nice if more of them would make a comparison of only the free apps. I've been using free antivirus for years, and haven't had any problems, or at least nothing bad enough I can even remember it. Not that I'd mind paying for it, but it doesn't seem worth it right now. How to Geek fisked various free utilities, and Avira they can only ding with the fact that it offered some free, optional web filter. That "feature" seems to have been removed (or they made it an opt-in), and I've had no problems with Avira since I installed it a few days ago. (I also used it for a year or so, before MSE.)
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: HeroHog on April 15, 2016, 10:21:10 PM
http://lifehacker.com/microsoft-admits-that-third-party-antivirus-is-more-eff-1441135677

http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/goodbye-microsoft-security-essentials-microsoft-now-recommends-you-use-a-third-party-antivirus/

Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: Ben on April 16, 2016, 12:43:45 AM
http://lifehacker.com/microsoft-admits-that-third-party-antivirus-is-more-eff-1441135677

http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/goodbye-microsoft-security-essentials-microsoft-now-recommends-you-use-a-third-party-antivirus/



Whoa, deja vu man. Trippy. :P  =D
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: Ben on April 16, 2016, 12:47:32 AM
I've been using free antivirus for years, and haven't had any problems, or at least nothing bad enough I can even remember it. Not that I'd mind paying for it, but it doesn't seem worth it right now.

Yeah, AV software has always seemed kinda high priced to me with the annual subscription thing and all. On the other hand, I suppose there is some resource intensive R&D to keep it all up to date on the practically daily new threats.
Title: Re: Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) question
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 16, 2016, 01:45:38 AM
Of course, having said that, now I'll probably get some mega-viruswormtrojan-of-death that will destroy all of my files, reformat everything, drain my back account, and frame me for inventing Jar-Jar Binks.