Author Topic: Shooting at Carson City IHOP  (Read 7404 times)

Doggy Daddy

  • Poobah
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,334
  • From the saner side of Las Vegas
Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« on: September 06, 2011, 01:07:59 PM »
Would you exchange
a walk-on part in a war
for a lead role in a cage?
-P.F.

Perd Hapley

  • Superstar of the Internet
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 61,449
  • My prepositions are on/in
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2011, 01:26:22 PM »
That is a tragedy. I hope the victims all have a full recovery. Having said that:

THIS IS ALL TEH OBAMA WILL NEED TO BAN HIGH-CAPACITY PANCAKES!
"Doggies are angel babies!" -- my wife

Doggy Daddy

  • Poobah
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,334
  • From the saner side of Las Vegas
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2011, 01:29:19 PM »
That is a tragedy. I hope the victims all have a full recovery.

I thoroughly agree.  I'm wondering, though, whether nobody was armed or if the shooter just caught everyone off guard.  This is Nevada.  We have shall issue and open carry.  He walked in with a rifle, after just having fired it right outside.

DD
Would you exchange
a walk-on part in a war
for a lead role in a cage?
-P.F.

Doggy Daddy

  • Poobah
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,334
  • From the saner side of Las Vegas
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2011, 01:30:32 PM »
THIS IS ALL TEH OBAMA WILL NEED TO BAN HIGH-CAPACITY PANCAKES!

And I think Obama is okay wit teh pancakes.  It's Michelle that would want to ban them.

DD
Would you exchange
a walk-on part in a war
for a lead role in a cage?
-P.F.

wmenorr67

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12,775
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2011, 01:32:35 PM »
Quote
Sheriff Kenny Furlong told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the suspect fired at restaurant customers before shooting himself. He said the shooter is not expected to survive, according to the newspaper.

If you want to kill yourself do so before shooting others.
There are five things, above all else, that make life worth living: a good relationship with God, a good woman, good health, good friends, and a good cigar.

Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.  One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

Bacon is the candy bar of meats!

Only the dead have seen the end of war!

Perd Hapley

  • Superstar of the Internet
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 61,449
  • My prepositions are on/in
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2011, 04:08:06 PM »
The above link has been updated. Two National Guard soldiers and one civilian died, in addition to the psycho. :mad: :'(
"Doggies are angel babies!" -- my wife

Jamie B

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,866
  • I am Abynormal
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2011, 04:54:09 PM »
My impression is that NV has always been a gun friendly state.

Sadly, it does not seem that the carrying or not carrying of guns seem to make a difference with incidents like this.
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher

The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re f**ked! - Stephen

Doggy Daddy

  • Poobah
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,334
  • From the saner side of Las Vegas
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2011, 04:59:24 PM »
Quote
It wasn't immediately clear whether the gunman had any connection with the military or the Guard and authorities weren't saying whether the attack targeted the Guard members, who were meeting at the restaurant.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/06/at-least-8-reportedly-shot-at-ihop-restaurant-in-nevada/#ixzz1XCy0xkOC

So they were meeting there.  Was this duty related?  Assuming so, I'm guessing they were in uniform and prohibited from carrying?  Correct?

DD
Would you exchange
a walk-on part in a war
for a lead role in a cage?
-P.F.

Jamie B

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,866
  • I am Abynormal
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2011, 05:54:52 PM »
DD-

I did see a news report that claims the shooter to be an ex-employee.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/national-guard-members-dead-ihop-rampage/story?id=14457713
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher

The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re f**ked! - Stephen

Doggy Daddy

  • Poobah
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5,334
  • From the saner side of Las Vegas
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 05:57:59 PM »
DD-

I did see a news report that claims the shooter to be an ex-employee.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/national-guard-members-dead-ihop-rampage/story?id=14457713

Interesting.  Wonder how he lost his job.

DD
Would you exchange
a walk-on part in a war
for a lead role in a cage?
-P.F.

Jamie B

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,866
  • I am Abynormal
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 08:18:15 PM »
Really, how does one fail at IHOP?

Drinking and partying, up late watching porn on interweb, late to work?

Who knows.

Sometimes pure trash is just trash.....
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher

The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re f**ked! - Stephen

Jamie B

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,866
  • I am Abynormal
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 08:20:39 PM »
http://abcnews.go.com/US/national-guard-members-dead-ihop-rampage/story?id=14457713

Quote
"I saw people running into the casino and I saw people panicked so I panicked," he said."

Yea, that is always helpful.....

Updated information:
http://news.yahoo.com/sheriff-identifies-suspect-nevada-ihop-shooting-221500038.html
Quote
Carson City Sheriff Kenny Furlong says the man was 32-year-old Eduardo Sencion of Carson City. He says Sencion worked at a family business in South Lake Tahoe, was not in the military, and had no known affiliations with anyone inside the restaurant.
Random, psychotic act of violence?
« Last Edit: September 06, 2011, 08:27:58 PM by Jamie B »
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher

The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re f**ked! - Stephen

Regolith

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 6,171
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 10:20:44 PM »
Random, psychotic act of violence?

His family has stated that he has a history of mental illness, so it's possible.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. - Thomas Jefferson

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger

Perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything. - Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth

AZRedhawk44

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 13,977
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2011, 10:28:53 PM »
His family has stated that he has a history of mental illness, so it's possible.

Here comes the mental health / medical records check associated to NICS that the dems want so badly...

And to the wishy-washy stoopid masses who don't understand the principle behind "who gets to decide what crazy is?", they'll see us all who oppose it as whackos.
"But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist."
--Lysander Spooner

I reject your authoritah!

Regolith

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 6,171
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2011, 11:12:23 PM »
Here comes the mental health / medical records check associated to NICS that the dems want so badly...

And to the wishy-washy stoopid masses who don't understand the principle behind "who gets to decide what crazy is?", they'll see us all who oppose it as whackos.

I don't doubt they'll try it, but if they didn't get it after Jared Lee Loughner, they ain't getting it after this guy.
The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. - Thomas Jefferson

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt the Younger

Perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything. - Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth

Perd Hapley

  • Superstar of the Internet
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 61,449
  • My prepositions are on/in
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2011, 03:51:48 PM »
So now three NG soldiers are dead, and one civilian. And for no discernible reason.

Also, if you read all the way through, I think you'll see that this person has a point
http://m.cjonline.com/blog-post/kevin-mcginty/2011-09-07/well-are-you-left-wingers-happy-now-your-violent-rhetoric-has-led
"Doggies are angel babies!" -- my wife

Gowen

  • Metal smith
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,074
    • Gemoriah.com
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2011, 04:10:44 PM »
The local paper said the shooter was an agent for a south lake Tahoe grocery store.  I have no idea what "agent" means.  The family said he had mental issues.  A local news station played a clip of a witness saying it sounded like auto fire.  I seriously doubt that he had the money for a fully auto AK.
"That's my hat, I'm the leader!" Napoleon the Bloodhound


Gemoriah.com

Tallpine

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 23,172
  • Grumpy Old Grandpa
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2011, 04:16:22 PM »
Quote
I seriously doubt that he had the money for a fully auto AK.

You can buy them at any gun show for just a few bucks, doncha know ?

 ;/
Freedom is a heavy load, a great and strange burden for the spirit to undertake. It is not easy. It is not a gift given, but a choice made, and the choice may be a hard one. The road goes upward toward the light; but the laden traveller may never reach the end of it.  - Ursula Le Guin

AJ Dual

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16,162
  • Shoe Ballistics Inc.
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2011, 04:22:26 PM »
You can buy them at any gun show for just a few bucks, doncha know ?

 ;/

Or just file down the firing pin. "Everyone" knows that.
I promise not to duck.

sanglant

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 3,475
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2011, 05:36:32 PM »
"agent for a south lake Tahoe grocery store" = bagger. =|

Jamie B

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,866
  • I am Abynormal
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #20 on: September 08, 2011, 11:13:34 AM »
Quote
A local news station played a clip of a witness saying it sounded like auto fire.
That kind of garbage really irritates me.

He was either 'coached' for a nice news soundbite, or he was talking BS to enjoy his 15 minutes of fame.

Speaking the truth these days is a very infrequent occurrence in any venue.....
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher

The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re f**ked! - Stephen

230RN

  • saw it coming.
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 18,920
  • ...shall not be allowed.
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #21 on: September 08, 2011, 11:42:19 AM »
Could have been bump-firing, I suppose.
WHATEVER YOUR DEFINITION OF "INFRINGE " IS, YOU SHOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

Perd Hapley

  • Superstar of the Internet
  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 61,449
  • My prepositions are on/in
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2011, 12:16:25 PM »
That kind of garbage really irritates me.

He was either 'coached' for a nice news soundbite, or he was talking BS to enjoy his 15 minutes of fame.

Speaking the truth these days is a very infrequent occurrence in any venue.....

Probably just Walter Mitty syndrome, like most guys who pretend to know the difference in the sound of a. 30-06 from that of a .45 Colt.
"Doggies are angel babies!" -- my wife

Tallpine

  • friends
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 23,172
  • Grumpy Old Grandpa
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #23 on: September 08, 2011, 01:01:16 PM »
Probably just Walter Mitty syndrome, like most guys who pretend to know the difference in the sound of a. 30-06 from that of a .45 Colt.

Judging by the wound, I would say that it was a 54R sniper rifle with a laser sight.
Freedom is a heavy load, a great and strange burden for the spirit to undertake. It is not easy. It is not a gift given, but a choice made, and the choice may be a hard one. The road goes upward toward the light; but the laden traveller may never reach the end of it.  - Ursula Le Guin

Jamie B

  • friend
  • Senior Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2,866
  • I am Abynormal
Re: Shooting at Carson City IHOP
« Reply #24 on: September 08, 2011, 01:19:50 PM »
Quote
Probably just Walter Mitty syndrome, like most guys who pretend to know the difference in the sound of a. 30-06 from that of a .45 Colt.
No kidding!

"Damn, must have been a 50 cal."
"No, you idiot, it was a .22"
"Yea, well, it was a loud .22"

I have seen similar garbage happen.....
Greatness lies not in being strong, but in the right use of strength - Henry Ward Beecher

The Almighty tells me He can get me out of this mess, but He’s pretty sure you’re f**ked! - Stephen