Take your ball and go home? We'll tax that!

[Jamisjockey]

So in recognition of businesses leaving states unfriendly to business....well...let's just make a law against that!
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c112:S.1832:
 

[AZRedhawk44]

FedGuv has no Constitutional Authority to enforce taxes that are not FedGuv taxes.

This is all about interstate sales/use taxes, and allowing a State to audit a business located in a different State.

Total 10th Amendment violation.

CA has no authority to audit Monkeyleg's business in AL. 

[Jamisjockey]

FedGuv has no Constitutional Authority to enforce taxes that are not FedGuv taxes.

This is all about interstate sales/use taxes, and allowing a State to audit a business located in a different State.

Total 10th Amendment violation.

CA has no authority to audit Monkeyleg's business in AL. 

10th amendment? Ha!  We scoff at your old outdated piece of hemp paper!

[brimic]

Its only a matter of time before there will be civil forfeitures, if not criminal penalties for quitting your job without a permission slip from .gov, because the tax dollars you produce are needed to pay for those who don't/won't work.

I have a feeling that obamacare is going to be a game changer in ways people never even thought of.

[Ben]

Its only a matter of time before there will be civil forfeitures, if not criminal penalties for quitting your job without a permission slip from .gov, because the tax dollars you produce are needed to pay for those who don't/won't work.

I have a feeling that obamacare is going to be a game changer in ways people never even thought of.

Because lately I have great difficulty differentiating real life from The Onion and Dystopian fiction, did or does some country or another already have something like this, where you don't leave your job?

[TechMan]

JJ,
Linky no worked for me.  I edited your post to and the url tag.

[Nick1911]

Because lately I have great difficulty differentiating real life from The Onion and Dystopian fiction, did or does some country or another already have something like this, where you don't leave your job?

If I recall correctly, this was the case at some point in the soviet union.

[AZRedhawk44]

Because lately I have great difficulty differentiating real life from The Onion and Dystopian fiction, did or does some country or another already have something like this, where you don't leave your job?

Directive 10-289 from Atlas Shrugged comes to mind.

[Nick1911]

Ah, here we go:

Later, the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet, 26 June 1940 "On the Transfer to the Eight-Hour Working Day, the Seven-day Work Week, and on the Prohibition of Unauthorized Departure by Laborers and Office Workers from Factories and Offices"[3] replaced the 1938 revisions with obligatory criminal penalties for quitting a job (2–4 months imprisonment), for being late 20 minutes (6 months of probation and pay confiscation of 25 per cent), etc.

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Soviet_Union_%281927%E2%80%931953%29

[brimic]

Because lately I have great difficulty differentiating real life from The Onion and Dystopian fiction, did or does some country or another already have something like this, where you don't leave your job?

It doesn't take satire or even a great oracle to come up with these things.
Take the worst possible policy position that you can imagine and there's already a good chance that obama/pelosi/reid already have it on their to do list with boehner waiting in the wings already ready to reluctantly agree to.

[Jamisjockey]

Two kids fight over a toy.  One kid intentionally breaks it out of selfishness so the other kid can't have it.
This is your standard tantrum being thrown by leftist idiots who refuse to accept the workings of a free market.  They make bad policy.  There is a backlash, so they make the policy mandatory or the backlash illegal. 
Liberalism: Ideas so good, they must be mandatory!

[T.O.M.]

I see this failing quickly for one big reason...internet sales.  Even the most liberal of people likes to use Amazon to fnd the best deal on their goods, rather than having to drive all the way to Wally World to buy it themselves. 

Seriously, if you add sales tax and shipping to a purchase, the benefit of Amazon and other internet sales vanishes quickly.  Watch who yells about it this time (I hope, unless they're too busy watching the new Bear Grylls show).

[Jamisjockey]

I see this failing quickly for one big reason...internet sales.  Even the most liberal of people likes to use Amazon to fnd the best deal on their goods, rather than having to drive all the way to Wally World to buy it themselves. 

Seriously, if you add sales tax and shipping to a purchase, the benefit of Amazon and other internet sales vanishes quickly.  Watch who yells about it this time (I hope, unless they're too busy watching the new Bear Grylls show).

I haven't read the bill yet.  Synopsis I heard, taking with a grain of salt, is that it's directed at businesses that move out of state due to regulations and taxation.

[AZRedhawk44]

I haven't read the bill yet.  Synopsis I heard, taking with a grain of salt, is that it's directed at businesses that move out of state due to regulations and taxation.

Skimming it, I only see reference to sales and use tax, and deliberately not allowing the chasing of interstate state level corporate taxes.

     (a) In General- Nothing in this Act shall be construed as--

        (1) subjecting a seller or any other person to franchise, income, occupation, or any other type of taxes, other than sales and use taxes,

        (2) affecting the application of such taxes, or

        (3) enlarging or reducing State authority to impose such taxes.

[Jamisjockey]

 

gotta love pundits, right?

 Still looks like a shitty bill.  It's another version of the internet sales tax.

(C) Require remote sellers and single and consolidated providers to collect sales and use taxes pursuant to the applicable destination rate, which is the sum of the applicable State rate and any applicable rate for the local jurisdiction into which the sale is made.

[HankB]

Skimming it, I only see reference to sales and use tax, and deliberately not allowing the chasing of interstate state level corporate taxes.

Same here - though there's little doubt that some in .gov would LIKE to prevent companies from moving around; the NLRB tried to prevent the opening of a new Boeing facility in South Carolina on the grounds that it was "unfair" to the union workforce on the Left Coast. (NLRB backed off from the political fallout, but tried to save face by saying that the new Boeing contract with the union made their action unnecessary.)

Hmmm . . . isn't there some Federal law or regulation saying that a person who leaves the USA and renounces their citizenship is still supposed to pay US taxes for 10 years after leaving? Unless they have assets tied to the USA (Social Security payments, pension from US company, etc.) this seems unenforceable unless the person comes back sometime.

[Tallpine]

. . . isn't there some Federal law or regulation saying that a person who leaves the USA and renounces their citizenship is still supposed to pay US taxes for 10 years after leaving? Unless they have assets tied to the USA (Social Security payments, pension from US company, etc.) this seems unenforceable unless the person comes back sometime.

Drones 

[RoadKingLarry]

Its only a matter of time before there will be civil forfeitures, if not criminal penalties for quitting your job without a permission slip from .gov, because the tax dollars you produce are needed to pay for those who don't/won't work.

I have a feeling that obamacare is going to be a game changer in ways people never even thought of.

The bill has probably already been written, just waiting for the right crisis to not let go to waste.

[T.O.M.]

Take it to the next level... can't move to a new state, because of tax issues.  Can't quit to pursue education for the same reason.  Can't have another kid because of the deduction.  Get creative, andbthere could be no end.  At this rate, I'll be out of foil before we get to the districts and the annual Hunger Games event run by The Capital.