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Title: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: onions! on October 27, 2007, 02:33:49 PM
I need to hem pants,sew patches,& *maybe* try some slip covers or curtains.

I'm not going into production & I have no desire to make clothes.I am interested in upholstering my own furniture but I understand that it'd require more than what I expect of this machine.

Something that can do a few dififferent stitches & work reliably for years.That's what I'm looking for.

I've visited a sewing center &,well,ever get caught by a pack of women in the "femine products" aisle?They give you a bemused,tolerant look that's seems to shoo you away.It was kinda like that.

Think Ruger Blackhawk not Custom Shop N-frame.W/a Hi-Point price.

Thoughts?Ideas?Creative snide comments? grin
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Paddy on October 27, 2007, 03:19:34 PM
Sheesh.  Hire a freakin' seamstress already.  There's a lot more involved than just owning a sewing machine.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 27, 2007, 03:28:08 PM
In the creative, snide comments department, kind of...

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ever get caught by a pack of women in the "femine products" aisle?

A few years back, I was moving into an apartment that had a big window in the bedroom.  It had blinds, but it needed something else to block out the light.  My mom offered to sew up some curtains for me.  Now, I'm of the view that every man (and woman) should have enough sew-fu to maintain their clothing and such.  I'd not have felt the least bit sheepish about sewing up some curtains for myself, but at my skill level, it would have taken forever and might have ended up a pretty bad job.  My mother, on the other hand, had the mad sewing skills to do it much faster and better than I.  And I was busy moving and registering for college classes and what-not.  She wanted to do something to help me out. 

So we went to the fabric store to get some material.  While my mom was looking at some other things in the store, I went up to pay for the fabric.  I made the mistake of mentioning that my mom was making some curtains for me.  The lady at the counter kindly informed me that guys can sew, too.  Usually engineers, she said.   rolleyes   I bore her prejudiced attitude with minimal response until I could get out of the store.  I could have explained to her why it made more sense for my mommy to do it for me.  Or I could have asked her if she presumed that every man who came into the store was afraid to do girlie stuff like sewing.  Whatever.  Can you tell that this still annoys me?   smiley
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Paddy on October 27, 2007, 03:32:05 PM
I've never heard of men sewing,  especially 'curtains' 'n stuff, fistful. It must be a midwestern thing, 'cause it sure sounds gay to me.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: onions! on October 27, 2007, 04:15:24 PM
Sheesh.  Hire a freakin' seamstress already.  There's a lot more involved than just owning a sewing machine.


I could.I just enjoyed a nice meal of sweet'n'sour chicken I made from scratch(yep,sauce too).That involved more than just owning a stove as well.IOWs,I can learn. smiley
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: grislyatoms on October 27, 2007, 04:16:11 PM
Lots of civil war re-enactors and Cowboy Action shooters sew their own stuff. Certainly nothing wrong with that.
When I was layed up recovering from back surgery I did cross-stitch to keep from going out of my mind with boredom. I gave it to my Mom for Christmas. I don't ever want to do it again, though. I really don't have the patience for it.

Anyway, onions!, I have a small sewing machine you can have, if you like. My Mom bought it for my daughter but I doubt we will ever use it. It is quite small, so i don't know if it will be useful or not. I have to find it, too.

Lemme know.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 27, 2007, 04:18:50 PM
Nothing wrong with men sewing. I would fight to the death for my sewing machine, its cast iron, treadle powered and takes three people to move in one piece. I use it mostly for mid-weight leather. I also do a lot of hand sewing, the last three things I sewed were all holsters for 1911s.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Stickjockey on October 27, 2007, 04:25:25 PM
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It must be a midwestern thing, 'cause it sure sounds gay to me.

Whatever. Hey Onions, if you're in the Portland, Oregon area, pm me. My wife sews like nuthin'.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: onions! on October 27, 2007, 04:36:44 PM
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It must be a midwestern thing, 'cause it sure sounds gay to me.

Whatever. Hey Onions, if you're in the Portland, Oregon area, pm me. My wife sews like nuthin'.

 :cool:but I'm in Michigan.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Mabs2 on October 27, 2007, 04:37:34 PM
I've never heard of men sewing,  especially 'curtains' 'n stuff, fistful. It must be a midwestern thing, 'cause it sure sounds gay to me.
Well, it IS fistful.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Harold Tuttle on October 27, 2007, 04:47:41 PM
curtains:
buy camo burlap
use staple gun to affix above window

slip covers:
buy camo burlap
use staple gun to affix around furniture
cover staple line with long thin strip of black gaffers tape
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: thebaldguy on October 27, 2007, 05:00:31 PM
I was the first generation that had to take Home Ec and Shop. I learned how to sew and use a machine. It's a skill that comes in handy. My girlfriend found a used machine years ago for $40.00. Took it home, cleaned it up, and it works great. I've used it quite a few times over the last 7-8 years on pack straps, clothes, repairing rips/tears, etc. If you buy one, get one with the removable cuff platform; you remove some work space around the foot/needle area to make it easier to sew cuffs. Portable machines are better than the ones in the cabinet/table style.

Funniest use: fixing holes in the crotch of sweatpants. I don't know how they get there, but a few seconds through a machine and they're done.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Paddy on October 27, 2007, 05:01:48 PM
Sheesh.  Hire a freakin' seamstress already.  There's a lot more involved than just owning a sewing machine.


I could.I just enjoyed a nice meal of sweet'n'sour chicken I made from scratch(yep,sauce too).That involved more than just owning a stove as well.IOWs,I can learn. smiley

OK. I can get behind that.  You must have a lot of free time.  smiley
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: cosine on October 27, 2007, 05:10:09 PM
If you want to do things like hem pants, a free arm on the machine is pretty much a necessity. IIRC, it allows you to sew around in a circle on cylindrical objects (like pant legs).

Edit: just saw thebaldguy beat me to it. Cuff platform=free arm.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Archie on October 27, 2007, 05:39:29 PM
I made a costume for a live stage production in High School.  An old girl friend helped me, but I designed it and did most of the work.

Sewing is much like sheet metal work, by the way.  Except the edges don't cut fingers so much.  I still make holsters but I hand sew everything.

As for it being 'gay'... someone has some really self-image issues.  A man needs to be able to do anything and everything it takes to be self-sufficient.  Just like a woman has to be able to change a tire for those times she can't vamp a man into doing it for her.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Standing Wolf on October 27, 2007, 05:44:08 PM
I own a sewing machine. I can truthfully tell you I'm an expert with it, but my curtains have held up five years. If I ever make time, I plan to make a bath robe: I can't find anything warm enough that reaches far enough down to suit me.

I bought a used sewing machine that didn't work ten minutes. I took it back and bought a new machine that works well enough. It paid for itself long before I finished making curtains for seven windows.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Paddy on October 27, 2007, 05:46:20 PM
Archie sez:

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I made a costume for a live stage production in High School.  An old girl friend helped me, but I designed it and did most of the work.

As for it being 'gay'... someone has some really self-image issues. 

Whatever, dude   laugh
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Ben on October 27, 2007, 05:50:53 PM
As per Lazarus Long, I sew when I need to. I have a Simplicity that I got off Amazon. Works well for hemming pants, sewing patches on my work flightsuit, fixing rips in my "work on the car, in the yard, or wherever" clothes that I don't want to toss just because they don't look presentable.

I sewed myself a suede scabbard for my Great Plains Rifle, in case that makes sewing less gay to certain people.Tongue
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: CAnnoneer on October 27, 2007, 06:31:07 PM
I have a sewing machine and use it proficiently if not expertly. I have made Halloween costumes for me, as well as casual wear and simple repairs. I can also embroider and cook. Self-sufficiency = freedom.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Paddy on October 27, 2007, 06:39:52 PM
Superb!  APS is rife with seamstresses. I am so proud of you guys.........................

Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 27, 2007, 06:47:31 PM
I've never heard of men sewing,  especially 'curtains' 'n stuff, fistful. It must be a midwestern thing, 'cause it sure sounds gay to me.


Good thing that I'm not very good at it, then.  I think Riley might be more at home with those knuckle-draggers down in Georgia.   smiley
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Bogie on October 27, 2007, 11:15:50 PM
I've got two Janome New Home sewing machines (mostly used for hemming banners), and one Janome dedicated embroidery only "sewing" machine.
 
My next door neighbor, known as "Big Roy," used to be a manager on the interior and upholstery line at the local Ford plant.

Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Joe Demko on October 28, 2007, 05:31:29 AM
Sewing is a good and useful skill.

Gayness is about being attracted to people of the same sex.  Riley is very worried about homosexuality.  So much so that he is now drawing non-existent connections between sewing and sexual orientation.  I think Riley spends too much time thinking about homosexuality.

Do you suppose he dreams about homosexuality? undecided
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2007, 05:59:20 AM
My favorite part is where Archie connected male sewing with live theater.  Kickin' the gay up a notch - BAM!   grin
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Joe Demko on October 28, 2007, 06:57:18 AM
Well, there are several ways this could be resolved:
1.  Riley could take up sewing and see if it makes him want to taste one.
2.  Riley could taste one and see if it makes want to take up sewing.

Option #2 could also shed some light on whether teh gay is a choice or  not.  If Riley finds that tasting one is like eating Lay's potato chips, then I'll concede that those who claim it's a choice have been right all along.  Here's Riley's chance to do some research on a topic that, clearly, interests him and possibly learn a new skill or two as well. laugh
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: K Frame on October 28, 2007, 07:04:27 AM
I've never heard of men sewing,  especially 'curtains' 'n stuff, fistful. It must be a midwestern thing, 'cause it sure sounds gay to me.

Thus speaks the "enlightened" California liberal...  rolleyes
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Paddy on October 28, 2007, 08:32:42 AM
You guys sure are touchy about this subject.  Maybe APS needs a Quilting Bee forum where y'all can trade tips, tricks and techniques for attaching sequins to ballet shoes and stuff like that.  laugh
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: grislyatoms on October 28, 2007, 08:38:18 AM
You guys sure are touchy about this subject.  Maybe APS needs a Quilting Bee forum where y'all can trade tips, tricks and techniques for attaching sequins to ballet shoes and stuff like that.  laugh

Good one, Riley! grin
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: K Frame on October 28, 2007, 08:43:42 AM
Quick, someone sneak into Reilly's house while his wife is away and pop all the buttons off his clothes and bust all the seams on his pants...
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Bogie on October 28, 2007, 10:02:49 AM
Well, I just need a non-dry-rotted source for really, really heavy thread, like for sewing tents.
 
Give.
 
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: K Frame on October 28, 2007, 10:10:18 AM
Several options for that...

1. Tack and saddle shop. Yellow pages/net

2. Sailing supply store. Yellow pages/net

3. Sewing supply center. Yellow pages/net.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Euclidean on October 28, 2007, 01:33:20 PM
I've never heard of men sewing,  especially 'curtains' 'n stuff, fistful. It must be a midwestern thing, 'cause it sure sounds gay to me.

Quote from: Robert A. Heinlein
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

Admittedly I sure could sew better, but competence is no grounds for ridicule.

Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2007, 01:38:51 PM
Part of me agrees with Heinlein.  Especially my recovering survivalist part.  But any economist knows that specialization is for capitalists.   smiley
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Euclidean on October 28, 2007, 01:42:12 PM
Well it's not that we should expect everybody to be good at everything, that's just silly in an industrial society or even most pre industrial societies, the point is that competence is a worthy goal and should be valued.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2007, 01:44:35 PM
Oh come off it, Euclid.  It's obvious you're just trying to explain away your homosexual urges.  Wink
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Desertdog on October 28, 2007, 05:58:07 PM
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I've never heard of men sewing,  especially 'curtains' 'n stuff, fistful. It must be a midwestern thing, 'cause it sure sounds gay to me.
Have you ever heard of a Tailor?  Nothing more than a male seamstress.

When I retired I thought taking up sewing would be good.  After a few weeks of practice I found I still could not sew a straight seam.  So now I just set up the machine for my wife if she wants to sew anything.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Euclidean on October 28, 2007, 07:25:14 PM
Oh come off it, Euclid.  It's obvious you're just trying to explain away your homosexual urges.  Wink

As soon as those urges come, I have your address.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: K Frame on October 28, 2007, 07:28:36 PM
Oh come off it, Euclid.  It's obvious you're just trying to explain away your homosexual urges.  Wink

As soon as those urges come, I have your address.

I was going to close this thread, but you know, with a snapping comeback like that, now I want to see where it goes...
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Euclidean on October 28, 2007, 07:30:57 PM
Hehe.  He was just funnin' Mr. Irwin.

Even if he wasn't I really wouldn't give a hoot, I know what my sexual orientation is.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: CAnnoneer on October 28, 2007, 07:37:33 PM
You lover boys should come here to California and move in across the street from Riley  grin
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Euclidean on October 28, 2007, 07:43:30 PM
I would SO be teh ghey in Austin, Texas way before I'd do it in Kali.  Not nearly so many of the silly gun laws, and a ban on homosexual marriage as a great added bonus!  I mean seriously how many straight people wish that marriage was illegal for them?  Lucky gays.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: wooderson on October 28, 2007, 07:45:58 PM
Wait, did we ban gay marriage?
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: CAnnoneer on October 28, 2007, 07:58:15 PM
I would SO be teh ghey in Austin, Texas way before I'd do it in Kali.  Not nearly so many of the silly gun laws, and a ban on homosexual marriage as a great added bonus!  I mean seriously how many straight people wish that marriage was illegal for them?  Lucky gays.

If marriage were illegal, 90% of the men in the world would not get laid.  grin
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: K Frame on October 28, 2007, 08:00:33 PM
OK, bring it back on topic, clownfish, or I will close it...
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 28, 2007, 08:00:38 PM
Oh come off it, Euclid.  It's obvious you're just trying to explain away your homosexual urges.  Wink

As soon as those urges come, I have your address. 


No, it was a joke, see.  I'm not gay.  Honest.









I'm really not. 




Seriously. 



[Insecure, stressed-out emoticon]
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Bogie on October 28, 2007, 08:49:23 PM
Well, if anyone knows where I could pick up a nice double-needle machine that isn't currently in a container from China, and doesn't cost over a grand, I'd like to know.
 
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: onions! on October 29, 2007, 03:15:12 AM
Well,my search *might* have ended.I just recv'd a mail from Mom indicating that I was welcome to her old Singer.I'll be able to check it out on Thanksgiving.She said that it worked & was all there-whatever that means. smiley

Grislyatoms?I'll keep you in mind.If what she has is incomplete or rusty junk I'll PM you.Thanks for the offer.

Harold Tuttle?Kinda funny,the idiots people next door just did something similar.They stapled black plastic sheeting over the walls & windows in their living room.Other rooms have "clear" Visqueen,cut into panels,over the windows.Meat locker chic!

thebaldguy. grin Sweatpants!I have three pairs w/the same splits.I thought that it was just me...

Riley,Riley,Riley.>shakes head<What are we gonna do w/you. cheesy

BTW,I do have a bit of extra time on my hands right now.It's too dark to golf,I sold my .22-no tree rat hunting,& I'm single & not looking.


Thanks for the replies,I gotta go.I've a date w/a Richard Simmons video.Exercise! angel
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: roo_ster on October 29, 2007, 07:59:34 AM
Sewing is a useful skill.  I have very limited sewing skills, BTW.

One of my accomplishments was to repair my football pants in Jr High.  My issue pants had pockets of ra ll the pads...with the stitches all ripped out.  Two hours, one needle, a lot of white thread, and one tube of Krazy Glue later, and I am ready for football.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Scout26 on October 29, 2007, 08:46:26 AM
Back in High School I did a very carefull study of the environment and decided to take a Basic Home Ec class.  I learned how to cook, sew, do laundry and other basic home skills. 

Oh, did I mention that I was the only male in a class of ~45 females Huh?  How gay, huh Huh??  I did the same thing by taking a typing class. (Again the only male in a class of ~ 60 females.)  My firends thought it was gay also, until they noticed that all these girls would come up and talk to me.  Having the same class with homework, group projects, etc. gave us a common connection.  After that I never did have much trouble finding a girl to go out with on Saturday Night.

Yes, I also took a couple of Industrial Arts classes (House Wiring, Metal Shop, Wood Shop, Auto Shop.) 

I brought a fairly decent, slightly used, sewing machine to my marriage.  (Which somewhat surprised Mrs Scout when I used it in front of her for the first time and actually managed to sew stuff togther and not my fingers.)   Sewing skills came in handy when I was in the Army to sew on patches, rank, badges, etc.  Now it's very useful since my son joined Cub Scouts (and I'm a den leader) to get all those patches on the uniforms (Holy crap are there a lot of patches !!!!!  But about 15 minutes on the machine and they're done, vs $15-20 at the tailors/cleaners).

Funny this topic came up.  I was just at Jo-Ann Fabrics and picked up some more clear thread for adding a couple of new cub scout patches and a yard of some fabric to make some "cases" for the protective eyewear (about 20 pairs of glasses) so they don't get all scratched up getting banged around in the range bag.

I can sew simple stuff (a fabric pouch with a draw string closure for glasses, 'fer instance), and sew on patches and make basic repairs to clothes.  I probably could do clothes/drapes, but only if you're not real picky as to finish/straight lines.   I did make a pair of pants/jeans from a pattern in high school.  (Imagine "Picasso Pants"   cheesy rolleyes)  I got a lot of "Nice Try !" and "You'll get the hang of it." type comments from the girls and the teacher.   

Nice thing is I got a well rounded education.  I can cook, clean, sew, do laundry, fix plumbing, do electrical, repair/maintain cars (at least until they became flippin' computers), build/make stuff with wood and/or metals, and have done all the other things that Heinlein mentioned, except the "Die Gallantly" part, I'll save that for much  later.   angel 
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Perd Hapley on October 29, 2007, 09:08:14 AM
Goodness knows that mountain men, couriers du bois, lumberjacks, miners and cowboys probably did a lot of their own sewing, when there wasn't a squaw around.  Those nancy-boys.   cheesy


Of course, sailors had to mend sails and the like.  But we all know which way they swing.  Tongue
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 29, 2007, 02:54:39 PM
Think Ruger Blackhawk not Custom Shop N-frame.W/a Hi-Point price.

Thoughts?Ideas?Creative snide comments? grin

Speaking as my former alter ego "Omar the tent maker" (from car racing days, when I made all the racing flags for the track where my club raced), I suggest going to that most manly of stores, Sears. The sewing machine department is usually located in close proximity to the tool department, thus providing both alibi and cover. And Sears offers decent machines, at reasonable prices.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: CNYCacher on October 29, 2007, 06:46:41 PM
https://www.quiltedtoatee.com/store.php?showCat=15

I know they have at least 7 for sale right now even though they are not all on the website.  A phone call or email would get you all the info.  All these Singers have been disassembled, cleaned, re-timed, and had all the electrical stuff updated, and all the wearable parts replaced like rubber bumpers etc.  Black ones are original finish with gold leaf replaced and clear-coated.  Colored ones are refinished in custom color with gold leaf replaced and cleared, and are more expensive.
If you want a great machine that will likely outlast you and can also punch a needle through just about anything, there you go.
Title: Re: Need help-I could use a sewing machine.
Post by: Hawkmoon on October 31, 2007, 06:17:46 AM
Well, if anyone knows where I could pick up a nice double-needle machine that isn't currently in a container from China, and doesn't cost over a grand, I'd like to know.

Irrespective of price, if you don't want it to come from China it doesn't exist.