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US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« on: February 22, 2007, 05:09:31 PM »
US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
SAN JOSE, Costa Rica

A tour bus of US senior citizens defended themselves against a group of alleged muggers, sending two of them fleeing and killing a third in the Atlantic coast city of Limon, Costa Rica police said on Thursday.

One of the tourists - a retired member of the US military - put assailant Warner Segura in a head lock and broke his clavicle after the 20-year-old and two other men armed with a knife and gun held up their tour bus Wednesday, said Luis Hernandez, the police chief of Limon, 130 kilometers (80 miles) east of San Jose.

The two other men fled when the 12 senior citizens started defending themselves. The tourists then drove Segura to the Red Cross where the man was declared dead. The Red Cross also treated one of the tourists for an anxiety attack, Hernandez said.


I guess 9/11 has had more of a lasting effect than I thought. This story is great!

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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2007, 05:11:57 PM »
Outstanding!

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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2007, 05:30:53 PM »
Broke...COLLARBONE?  shocked

I suppose the guy was retired SEAL or special ops of some sort? That's not something they teach everyone in basic, is it?

Impressive. 

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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2007, 06:38:34 PM »
Hey, think about it.. collarbone's right there, all he had to do was squeeze a little hard and press down. *crack*

Probably bled to death internally. There's a lot of vital stuff running up that region.

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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2007, 07:01:33 PM »
That's one tough 70 year old.

Don't jack with Gramps.

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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2007, 01:54:59 AM »
Broke...COLLARBONE?  shocked

I suppose the guy was retired SEAL or special ops of some sort? That's not something they teach everyone in basic, is it?

Impressive. 

Actually, while I don't think its a technique taught now, some of the old hand to hand techniques taught how to break a collarbone.
 The Collarbone isn't hard to break, only takes about 20lbs of force to do so.
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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2007, 02:38:28 AM »
I now have a new reason to fear the elderly.
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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2007, 02:39:48 AM »
Hee Hee Heeeeee....  laugh
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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2007, 03:03:02 AM »
mfree, yes but you have to get the angle right which can be really tough when everyone is squirming around.  The collarbone, like the neck, is easier to break with qin na but angle dependent.  Easier to break the collarbone with an elbow. smiley
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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2007, 03:17:17 AM »
I nominated this as the "feel good" story of the day!  grin
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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2007, 08:32:01 AM »
One of the reports (I'll try to find the link) said the guy was asphyxiated.  So gramps gets him in a choke hold, breaks the collarbone, and somewhere in the tussle bg gets his larynx crushed...

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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2007, 08:41:06 AM »
One of the reports (I'll try to find the link) said the guy was asphyxiated.  So gramps gets him in a choke hold, breaks the collarbone, and somewhere in the tussle bg gets his larynx crushed...

I don't know.  I've frequently head-locked people (just joking around) only to have them tap out, complaining that they can't breathe.  I don't really try for it, it just seems to happen.  No one's larynx seems to have been crushed. 
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You don't have to crush a larynx to kill someone in a headlock
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2007, 09:16:52 AM »
Could be gramps busted the collarbone in the scuffle, then sank down his headlock right proper-like.

You don't have to crush a larynx to kill someone in a headlock.  Just sink it properly & squeeze down, the larynx going in the crook of the elbow, the forearm & biceps muscles constricting the blood vessels on the side of the neck.  Unconsciousness* comes in seconds, death in minutes.

If his larynx was not crushed, the above is a likely cause of death.

Anyway, I'm downing a beer in honor of gramps & his buddies this PM.  Considering I just got diagnosed with pneumonia, gramps could likely kick my *expletive deleted*ss around the block and make me cry like a little girl.

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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2007, 09:41:01 AM »
I dunno, I kinda dig the light-headed feeling you get as the old grape runs out of O2, and the way your vision starts to tunnel down and there's nothing you can do about it.

I try to tap out a bit after that kicks in.
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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2007, 04:12:47 PM »
I dunno, I kinda dig the light-headed feeling you get as the old grape runs out of O2, and the way your vision starts to tunnel down and there's nothing you can do about it.

I try to tap out a bit after that kicks in.

That's endorphins cutting in due to hypoxia.  It's not a good thing.
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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2007, 04:45:17 PM »
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That's endorphins cutting in due to hypoxia.  It's not a good thing.

Too true. You want an endorphan rush?  Go for a run or try skydiving.

Good on Gramps.  I'll be hoisting one in his honor tonight after work.
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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2007, 04:48:18 PM »
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Re: US tourist allegedly kills mugger with bare hands
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2007, 05:45:43 PM »
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That's endorphins cutting in due to hypoxia.  It's not a good thing.

Too true. You want an endorphan rush?  Go for a run or try skydiving.


Well, I was able to do both those other things at taxpayer expense as well.  Could this explain my memory problems or distrac....

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