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An all time low
« on: November 02, 2009, 06:59:42 PM »
I find myself wishing we could trade Presidents with France.  :O

http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/25/sarkozy-mocks-obama-at-un-security-council-hello-big-media/


Sarkozy Mocks Obama at UN Security Council: Hello, Big Media?
by Maura Flynn

One of my favorite features of the Newseum in Washington, DC is the daily display of newspaper front pages from around the world. Today, Canada’s National Post was a standout with Alex Spillius’ coverage of a clash between Presidents Obama and Sarkozy.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/12066453/obama%20sarkozy%20pdf  {Anyone know how to embed a pdf on here?}

For reasons yet to be determined, the National Post appears to have de-linked their own front page story on their website. Mr. Spillius reported a similar (albeit watered-down) version in the UK’s Telegraph.

    Obama: “We must never stop until we see the day when nuclear arms have been banished from the face of the earth.”

    Sarkozy: “We live in the real world, not the virtual world. And the real world expects us to take decisions.”

The rest of Sarkozy’s remarks were, well, remarkable:

    “President Obama dreams of a world without weapons … but right in front of us two countries are doing the exact opposite.

    “Iran since 2005 has flouted five security council resolutions. North Korea has been defying council resolutions since 1993.

    “I support the extended hand of the Americans, but what good has proposals for dialogue brought the international community? More uranium enrichment and declarations by the leaders of Iran to wipe a UN member state off the map,” he continued, referring to Israel.

    The sharp-tongued French leader even implied that Mr Obama’s resolution 1887 had used up valuable diplomatic energy.

    “If we have courage to impose sanctions together it will lend viability to our commitment to reduce our own weapons and to making a world without nuke weapons,” he said.

    Mr Sarkozy has previously called the US president’s disarmament crusade “naive.”

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Re: An all time low
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 07:09:02 PM »
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Obama: “We must never stop until we see the day when nuclear arms have been banished from the face of the earth.”

We must never stop until we see the day when this sort of lunacy is recognized as the talk of evil men who must never wield power. 
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2009, 07:22:20 PM »
We must never stop until we see the day when this sort of lunacy is recognized as the talk of evil men who must never wield power. 


I'm not sure it's evil.  Extremely naive and potentially dangerous, but not necessarily  evil.
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2009, 07:42:07 PM »
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I'm not sure it's evil.  Extremely naive and potentially dangerous, but not necessarily  evil.

It wouldn't be evil if there weren't a few countries—North Korea and Pakistan come to mind—with nuclear weapons and madmen in charge.
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2009, 09:11:08 PM »
When nuclear weapons are outlawed, only outlaws will have nuclear weapons. ;)


Now get this: the French are saying that we are wimps  :O
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2009, 09:20:32 PM »

Now get this: the French are saying that we are wimps  :O
Worse, they're right.

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Re: An all time low
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2009, 09:40:29 PM »

I'm not sure it's evil.  Extremely naive and potentially dangerous, but not necessarily  evil.

No.  This kind of "pacifism" is evil.  It engenders bloodshed.  The president is not a child.  He's not mentally retarded.  He doesn't have an excuse not to understand that disarmament of the good guys is anything but an open invitation to the violent. 

Haven't we given them enough benefit of the doubt?  These people are as sick and cruel as any regime you can name. 
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2009, 09:53:18 PM »
Worse, they're right.

No, the leadership is a bunch of wimps.  The American soldier will fight whatever battle they are called to.
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2009, 09:54:35 PM »
When nuclear weapons are outlawed, only outlaws will have nuclear weapons. ;)


Now get this: the French are saying that we are wimps  :O

It is a sad, sad day when the French call us wimps.

But why can't we all sit around the campfire holding hands and singing Kumbaya;/
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2009, 09:58:10 PM »
Haven't we given them enough benefit of the doubt?  These people are as sick and cruel as any regime you can name. 

Right, no moral difference between being a pacifist wuss and murdering tens of millions of your own citizens.  ;/

I'm as down on the Obama cult as anyone, but he's not Mao or Stalin. Not yet anyway.
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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2009, 10:01:35 PM »
No, the leadership is a bunch of wimps.  The American soldier will fight whatever battle they are called to.
And who is responsible for our current leadership?

We are.

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Re: An all time low
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 10:06:42 PM »
Right, no moral difference between being a pacifist wuss and murdering tens of millions of your own citizens.  ;/

I'm as down on the Obama cult as anyone, but he's not Mao or Stalin. Not yet anyway.
"Not yet" indeed.  Obama believes the same things as Mao and Stalin, and he has the same destination in mind for us all.  The only real distinction between them is the timing.

Myself, I'd like to turn the this train around before it pulls into that station.

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Re: An all time low
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2009, 10:15:49 PM »
Right, no moral difference between being a pacifist wuss and murdering tens of millions of your own citizens.  ;/

I'm as down on the Obama cult as anyone, but he's not Mao or Stalin. Not yet anyway.


Abortion.  This isn't about Obama.  This is about an entire movement and what it has done, and plans to do, to our country.  And by the by, most of them are members of the party of slavery, segregation and Jim Crow.  So...
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2009, 10:18:07 PM »
True enough. I just like to keep the Communist Socialist distinction. Same goal, different methods.
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2009, 11:27:58 PM »
At least Stalin was trying to make his country strong.

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Re: An all time low
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2009, 01:08:23 AM »
Sarkozy has his own troubles.  I wouldn't exactly call France's future bright when an increasing number of its neighborhoods are impassable and car-burning has become one of the national pastimes.
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2009, 01:14:10 AM »
Sarkozy has his own troubles.  I wouldn't exactly call France's future bright when an increasing number of its neighborhoods are impassable and car-burning has become one of the national pastimes.

True, Lord knows he ain't perfect. It mostly shows how bad Obama and Co. are.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2009, 11:09:16 AM »

I'm not sure it's evil.  Extremely naive and potentially dangerous, but not necessarily  evil.

When acting on one's naivete has the potential to kill millions of people, it becomes evil.

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Re: An all time low
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2009, 09:35:53 AM »
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At least Stalin was trying to make his country strong.

Thank you for understanding this. What blows my mind over the current evil regime, is that not only are they using evil means, their apparent end goals aren't stability and economic might. It's the ruin of their own country.
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2009, 09:46:55 AM »
If it makes you feel better, Sarkozy is a god awful president himself.
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win just to watch him skrew up every single issue he was going to fix before being elected.
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2009, 10:59:03 AM »
At least the French President's wife is much kinder to the eyes......chris3

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Re: An all time low
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2009, 11:12:16 AM »
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At least the French President's wife is much kinder to the eyes......chris3

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Re: An all time low
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2009, 11:44:25 AM »
I've seen sewer rats that were kinder to the eyes than the First Lady.
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2009, 11:56:53 AM »
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AND ARE YOU IMPLYING THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT?! =D =D =D
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Re: An all time low
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2009, 03:06:37 PM »
Hmmm, and his name is Monkeyleg.....
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