So what does APS think of relgious structures.

[never_retreat]

So in this article they want to use an old catering hall and turn it into a mosque. The small road it is on would defiantly be substandard for the amount of people thought to come and go. I've been on it. Tight in a full size truck.
From other articles I have read the only people that want it are the Muslims.
The town also changed overall zoning ordinances last year that would only allow places of worship in areas already zoned a specific way. The area that essentially is left is already developed. So the only way that something could be built they would have to buy very expensive real estate that is mostly shopping malls and stuff like that. Level it and build there holy place.
ehttp://www.nj.com/messenger-gazette/index.ssf/2011/06/bridgewater_council_addressing_the_issues_in_mosque_lawsuit.html

[BlueStarLizzard]

So basically, the only people who want it are a group that would eventually require the road to be improved?
Their only other option would be going broke to buy something in an area they don't want anyway?

Not to mention, the road could probably use some improvement anyway?

i'm thinking people has panties in a twist over cause they are stupid.

[seeker_two]

i'm thinking people has panties in a twist over cause they are stupid.

Seems about right..... 

[BryanP]

So in this article they want to use an old catering hall and turn it into a mosque.
....
From other articles I have read the only people that want it are the Muslims.

Think about that statement for a second.   

[GigaBuist]

I've seen plenty of Christian churches in the area swamp a road that just isn't prepared to handle that kinda traffic on Sundays.  I've also seen it happen with a local greenhouse.

The quick and dirty solution is to have the church (or business) pay for traffic cops to keep things managed during heavy periods.

[Perd Hapley]

So what does APS think of relgious structures.

We don't like metal ones, apparently. 

[Azrael256]

So basically, the only people who want it are a group that would eventually require the road to be improved?

Yeah, read it again.  The council is willing to spend $100k fighting this.  It's not about a road.

This sure smells like "...prohibiting the free exercise...". 'Course the article is a bit lean, so there could be something we don't know.

[Scout26]

Yeah, this ones going to go well..... 

[Tallpine]

So what does APS think of relgious structures.

People should worship outdoors and naked like the goddess intended 

[BlueStarLizzard]

People should worship outdoors and naked like the goddess intended 

*thinks of AJ's old avatar* no, not everyone. 

[KD5NRH]

I've seen plenty of Christian churches in the area swamp a road that just isn't prepared to handle that kinda traffic on Sundays.

The Prestonwood Baptist Affront to Good Taste does that to several roads in its area.

[roo_ster]

The Prestonwood Baptist Affront to Good Taste does that to several roads in its area.

AKA, "The Baptidome."

http://goo.gl/maps/D6XH

[Scout26]

AKA, "The Baptidome."

http://goo.gl/maps/D6XH

Would it be wrong to wear a Lions shirt and wave a Lions pennant when attending their service?

[Sindawe]

"The Baptidome" actually LOOKS like a church, with features that recall the Gothic structures built in Europe and later in the US. 

Unlike this archetexteral mis-mash eyesore a local church put up on the grounds of the old WalMart and Albertson's where I live.



That structure on the far end is a good four stories tall and completly dwarfs all the surrounding structures.  The congregation is so huge that traffic has become an issue when they meet, with parking use spilling over into adjacent commercial parking area.

*thinks of AJ's old avatar* no, not everyone. 

Come on, even the Gods need a good laugh now and again. 

[Stetson]

^^^  Thats the church I go to, when I go to church.

[KD5NRH]

"The Baptidome" actually LOOKS like a church, with features that recall the Gothic structures built in Europe and later in the US.

Look at the whole thing. (Yes, the baseball field and other assorted stuff is part of the church)

[makattak]

Look at the whole thing. (Yes, the baseball field and other assorted stuff is part of the church)
http://k.b5z.net/i/u/2178320/i/PWBC2.jpg

Although I don't care for mega-churches, it must be pointed out the the baseball field and track/football field are likely associated with the SCHOOL that is associated with the church.

[AJ Dual]

When there's noises being made about using uh... "Baptista Law" to settle things like divorces, and minor community disputes, I'll get more concerned about the mega-churches.

My problem is that codified within Islam is the concepts of Hudaibiya and Taqiya which leaves me with a sinking feeling of being played for a fool for any tolerance or reasonableness I may show.

OTOH, they may both be extremely useful concepts by fundamentalist Islamists who wish to exactly foster such distrust within me of moderate Muslims who fully support American institutions and secular government.

My Libertarianism also comes directly in conflict at times with the notion that: "The Constitution was never intended as a suicide pact."

And, I've got worries that acceptance/tolerance of moderate Islam can provide fertile ground for the radicals. Even when you take it with a huge grain of salt, what's going on in Europe and the U.K. around this issue is deeply disturbing.

[Tallpine]

It just boggles my mind to think of all the people who are willingly donating to support those mega-churches 

They don't even have the IRS 

[Viking]

My problem is that codified within Islam is the concepts of Hudaibiya and Taqiya which leaves me with a sinking feeling of being played for a fool for any tolerance or reasonableness I may show.

You're not the only one.

And, I've got worries that acceptance/tolerance of moderate Islam can provide fertile ground for the radicals. Even when you take it with a huge grain of salt, what's going on in Europe and the U.K. around this issue is deeply disturbing.

Same here...

[Azrael256]

The wife and I turned down a good short sale in a nice neighborhood next to Prestonwood because of it.

[never_retreat]

AKA, "The Baptidome."

http://goo.gl/maps/D6XH

Where is this monstrosity located?

[KD5NRH]

Where is this monstrosity located?

6801 W Park Blvd
Plano, TX 75093
Bounded by Hebron, Marsh, Midway, and Plano Parkway.

Unfortunately, within view of the Arbor Hills Nature Preserve.  It provides a disturbingly industrial backdrop to 250 acres of walking and biking trails.

[roo_ster]

IMO, the Baptidome is not ugly, just...large.  It is not the ugliest structure one can see from Arbor Hills NP.

[cordex]

When there's noises being made about using uh... "Baptista Law" to settle things like divorces, and minor community disputes, I'll get more concerned about the mega-churches.

If both parties agree to resolution of a dispute using a particular moderator or set of rules - religious or not - I can't say I care a bit.