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Title: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: KD5NRH on June 26, 2017, 07:01:42 AM
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pasadena-police-stop-leads-weapons-cache-discovery/

Ignoring the incredibly poor reporting, that's an odd combination of weapons for only having ~150 rounds.
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: Ben on June 26, 2017, 08:49:55 AM
Oh no - I'm a felon!  ;/

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One package indicated the bullets were hollow points, a type of expanding bullet that is illegal.
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 26, 2017, 08:50:54 AM
And then we have this little gem -

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One package indicated the bullets were hollow points, a type of expanding bullet that is illegal.

Since when are HP bullets illegal in Kommiefornia?
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: Ben on June 26, 2017, 08:55:35 AM
And then we have this little gem -

Since when are HP bullets illegal in Kommiefornia?

I think they are actually illegal in a few cities, but certainly not the state (though I'm sure they'd like to, for the feel goodz).

Edit: I should have said "illegal to sell". San Francisco, and possibly a few other cities. In a cursory search, I couldn't find current info on it. Illegal to sell is not illegal to possess though.
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: griz on June 26, 2017, 09:03:01 AM
Is it just me or does it look like the home made suppressor on the pistol is so crooked the bullet would hit the tube itself?

I like the way they said "perhaps" 150 rounds, as if that's such an incredible amount that mere humans can't count that high.
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: Fly320s on June 26, 2017, 09:06:15 AM
$50,500 bail for possession of two guns and some ammo.  Nice job, Commiefornia.
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: wmenorr67 on June 26, 2017, 09:11:32 AM
$50,500 bail for possession of two guns and some ammo.  Nice job, Commiefornia.

Well it was a cache and he did piss in public.
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: MechAg94 on June 26, 2017, 09:42:16 AM
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Inside a duffel bag, authorities found an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle with a collapsible stock that was loaded with a single bullet; a .40-caliber handgun with markings indicating its use was restricted to law enforcement or government use; several loaded high-capacity magazines and two small bags of bullets.

There also were what appeared to be silencers machined from pipe, a machete-like knife, rope, a Bible and a notebook containing writings that investigators were still trying to decipher, authorities said.
I am not sure about the legalities of possessing the guns themselves.  If the "silencers" were real and unregistered, that alone could put him away for a while.

Do you think the handgun was just a Glock police trade in with old LEO only magazines?   =)

He was "caught" simply because he couldn't find a restroom.   Not very smart. 
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 26, 2017, 11:22:43 AM
But how is a length of pipe a "silencer"? Is this sheriff's department qualified to determine if a length of tube is a silencer, as opposed to a length of tube? I've tested .22 pistols that came from the manufacturer with fake "silencers" that looked a lot more real than what this guy had ... but didn't function to reduce sound sufficiently to be classified as a "silencer" (or "suppressor," to be more correct).
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 26, 2017, 11:23:59 AM

Do you think the handgun was just a Glock police trade in with old LEO only magazines?   =)


Probably bought from CDNN or J&G Sales. They often get large lots of police trade-ins.
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: MechAg94 on June 26, 2017, 12:05:12 PM
But how is a length of pipe a "silencer"? Is this sheriff's department qualified to determine if a length of tube is a silencer, as opposed to a length of tube? I've tested .22 pistols that came from the manufacturer with fake "silencers" that looked a lot more real than what this guy had ... but didn't function to reduce sound sufficiently to be classified as a "silencer" (or "suppressor," to be more correct).
That is the question.  For the purposes of booking him and the press release, it is a scary silencer. 

I was curious if a threaded pipe coupling with a drilled cap on the end would accomplish anything.  Probably a little. 

If it is actually fake, what laws was he breaking?  Concealed gun laws?  What are the rules on carrying large knives in California?
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: AJ Dual on June 26, 2017, 02:41:54 PM
Assume all facts in question are due to the ignorance of the reporter.

If someone goes through the trouble to make pipes and endcaps (they look a bit like Maglite bodies, where a lot of pre-made wink-and-nod "NOT A SILENCER!"-parts are sold online.) that are all properly threaded for a suppressor, that's generally the hard part.  Drilling holes and denting out a stack of freeze plugs to make rudimentary cone-baffles is the easy part. And you can skip the coning process, trading some dB's for ease of manufacture. So I'll assume they were filled with either baffles, or perhaps at least Brillo pad.

Hollowpoints? As noted, illegal to sell in some CA cities, not state-wide that I'm aware of.

As to the LEO/Military Restricted marking, that's almost always on the magazines. And even if they're really "old" magazines, that makes them '94 ban era over 10 round mags, and over 10 rounds is illegal in CA in all circumstances, even "CA Pre-Ban" as of last year (NRA fighting in court...)

California laws not withstanding, what an idiot.  Even if he was up to something purposely evil, doing anything that's arrestable or cause for police contact when you're carrying a bunch of illegal hardware...  :facepalm:

Oh... BTW.   :rofl:

https://www.walmart.com/ip/NTC-NTC0010-0-62-x-24-MagLite-D-Cell-Super-Combo-Solvent-Trap-Adapter-44-Light-Bulb-End-Cap-8-Storage-Cups-2D-Cell/581545626
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: dogmush on June 26, 2017, 03:22:17 PM

Do you think the handgun was just a Glock police trade in with old LEO only magazines?   =)


Pretty sure that's a Hi-Point so the "restricted" markings are probably just wishful thinking on the manufacturer's part.
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: MechAg94 on June 26, 2017, 04:39:38 PM
He was essentially carrying concealed weapons and apparently loaded.  He probably did not have permit to carry. 

That is a pretty big knife.  What are the knife restrictions there?
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: AJ Dual on June 26, 2017, 04:42:36 PM
Pretty sure that's a Hi-Point so the "restricted" markings are probably just wishful thinking on the manufacturer's part.

Or more likely the restricted markings didn't even exist on the mags anywhere. I'd bet $20 that the ignorant reporter performed a cursory search of "High Capacity Magazines + California" and came across mags marked LEO/MIL etc.  And then the reporter decided "That's a thing", and assumed it must have been present in the case of the LEO show-n-tell table's contents.
Title: Re: Wonder where he was headed
Post by: Angel Eyes on June 26, 2017, 04:49:48 PM
That is a pretty big knife.  What are the knife restrictions there?

At the state level, not a lot.  Fixed-blade knives must be carried openly.  Switchblades must have blades < 2" long.  Knives must be folded when carried concealed. Dirks and daggers cannot be carried concealed.  (Thread drift: there was a court ruling a while back which stated that a dirk or dagger was legal to carry inside a backpack.)

http://www.knifeup.com/california-knife-and-balisong-law/

Some cities, including Los Angeles, have their own restrictions.

http://www.knifeup.com/los-angeles-california-knife-laws/

It does not appear, from the OP article, that the knife was an issue in Pasadena.