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Cop or Soldier?
« on: January 18, 2012, 03:59:52 AM »
Take the quiz:

http://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/story.php?title=cop-soldier

I only got 16 out of 21.

The scary thing is the only reason I got that high of a score is that I know enough about some of the equipment to pick out the subtleties (and I picked out one cop because of his haircut).  =|

Edit: I should note that this post isn't meant for cop bashing, but rather as a reaction against the militarization of the police.  The roles of the military and law enforcement are not compatible, and anything that blurs that line is extremely dangerous to both liberty and innocent lives.

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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 04:17:52 AM »
I got 15 out of 21.
The scary part is that it can be that hard to tell the cops from military.
Not a big fan of militarized police forces.
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 08:32:16 AM »
Missed a couple. Such as the cops in full ACU with matching IBA with the side plates and epaulets. Also missed the one where the cop was sitting behind an M60 with a freaking AT-4 strapped down next to him. (Would anyone care to tell me why a police officer would ever need a damned AT-4?)

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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 08:58:12 AM »
Also 16 out of 21 . . . but on a few, the only way I could tell "cop" was by the badge or shoulder patch.
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 08:59:52 AM »
Missed a couple. Such as the cops in full ACU with matching IBA with the side plates and epaulets. Also missed the one where the cop was sitting behind an M60 with a freaking AT-4 strapped down next to him. (Would anyone care to tell me why a police officer would ever need a damned AT-4?)


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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 09:51:43 AM »
13 and I should know better.  However, a lot of the Soldiers weren't Soldiers, they were Marines.

I can understand where a PD would need a squad or two of "specialized" officers for certain cases.  But not the whole damn force.
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 09:55:30 AM »
12 out of 20, and there's no good way to tell. 
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 10:20:50 AM »
20 outa 21   you guys throwing it?
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 10:33:50 AM »
Got 18 right, yea the AT-4 threw me off.
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 10:35:00 AM »
14 out of 21. On a lot of them I had to guess based upon objects in the surroundings, as I don't know the equipment really well. I also figured that the guys with dirty uniforms were probably military, and guys using makeup mirrors to apply face paint were not military.

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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 12:31:03 PM »
15 of 21.  Very Very Scary.  :O
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 12:47:23 PM »
17 out of 21.
Hint, most cops in the images did not have covers on their headgear.

I was thrown by the belt fed MG in one image and the one LEO on the helo in another.
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 01:06:06 PM »
17 out of 21.

Aside from the cops with anti-tank weapons, the thing that bothered me the most was the police uniforms. These uniforms were (often) desert camo in areas that are lush and green.  :facepalm:

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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 01:34:06 PM »
What's the doff between desert and urban camo. There will be a quizz
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 01:40:54 PM »
What's the doff between desert and urban camo. There will be a quizz
ACU doesn't blend in with anything but ugly couches.

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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2012, 01:45:06 PM »
ACU doesn't blend in with anything but ugly couches.

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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2012, 05:53:27 PM »
17 out of 21.
Hint, most cops in the images did not have covers on their headgear.

I was thrown by the belt fed MG in one image and the one LEO on the helo in another.

Only reason I got the LEO on the little-bird right was because I noticed the huge spotlight hanging off the left side and went "yeah, that's not .mil issue."

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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2012, 06:06:13 PM »
Only reason I got the LEO on the little-bird right was because I noticed the huge spotlight hanging off the left side and went "yeah, that's not .mil issue."

I got that one because the helo had a bright green paint job instead of the "dark green" paint job military choppers usually have.
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2012, 06:54:00 PM »
16/21

On many of them, the tip off is that the cops will stack a much larger force at an entry way, or otherwise clump together on the streets. The military were usually much more spread out and will have 2-3 in a picture when on the street.
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2012, 11:40:35 PM »

19 out of 21. I need to drink now.


I got that one because the helo had a bright green paint job instead of the "dark green" paint job military choppers usually have.

Yea, I got all of the helicopter questions right as well. Remembered the stuff we bolted onto the side of aircraft for police.

I think this is exactly what the folks that drafted the Constitution meant by "standing army". It is not a good thing that the police have such toys. They unfortunately will want to use them.
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2012, 12:44:46 AM »
16 out of 21, imo the cops seem to use armored vehicles that wouldn't last an hour in modern combat, but I thought the hippie looking dudes were cops. 
The heli pics didn't fool me at all, I got them all correct.
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2012, 02:14:30 AM »
On many of them, the tip off is that the cops will stack a much larger force at an entry way, or otherwise clump together on the streets. The military were usually much more spread out and will have 2-3 in a picture when on the street.

Nope.  That too, but the real tip-off is in the obvious bias of the person who created the quiz.  No one would create such a quiz unless he was trying to make a point about the militarization of the police--damn good point, but it shows.

I don't know if cops, when they're all militaried up actually tend to add gratuitous amounts of black, but the first slide was the tip-off that that would be a theme, and it carried over pretty well.  All the really flattering shots but one were soldiers.  All the really goofy, stupid looking ones were cops.  The in-between ones?  Well, the dude with the black something-or-other and that three-point sling I wasn't sure on, because the black jumped out, but I went with the sling as being military.  Maybe cops use military-style slings too, but in a pic set like this, a cop is much more likely to be, in the immortal words of the Dude, waving the *expletive deleted*ing gun around. More importantly though, he has his hand open and facing out in a universally understood non-hostile manner.  And he's got the kind of focused, intense, serene look that makes him look all kinds of...um, I'll be in my bunk....  Yeah, that dude's a soldier, because no cop is gonna look that awesome in this set of pics.

The exercise with the people in the background hanging out?  Not cops.  Makes the exercise look all friendly-like.
All the jokes about black helicopter green made the helos easy, even though they're the reverse of the general rule.  Difference?  Cops don't use helicopters to look menacing.  They do use various armored vehicles to spend way too much taxpayer money in order to look scary.  Helicopters are for, and I could be wrong here, but I'm guessing, catching speeders on the freeway, monitoring evacuations or riots, etc. They're out of sight of the unruly public, so plain ol' shiny green is fine.  Soldiers have the slight "they shoot back" issue going on and need flat paint.

Hey, Watson, it's elementary, and you don't even need to know the gear, just the bias.

19/21.  The guy standing in a wood looking vaguely contemplative is definitely out of place with the cops.  And the one with the guys desert fatigues, a row of 'em shot from a funny angle?  One of 'em a kind of a dopey expression on his face, that combined with the black sunglasses on the guy behind him got me guessing the wrong way.

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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2012, 02:16:08 AM »
16 out of 21, imo the cops seem to use armored vehicles that wouldn't last an hour in modern combat,

Well, they don't usually come up against guys armed with RPGs. 99.999999% of the time they'll never come up against a threat truly dangerous enough to use even a lightly armored APC in the first place.  :facepalm:

And if they do, we already have an organization to deal with the situation: it's called the National Guard.
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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2012, 08:10:33 AM »
Nope.  That too, but the real tip-off is in the obvious bias of the person who created the quiz.  No one would create such a quiz unless he was trying to make a point about the militarization of the police--damn good point, but it shows.



what she said  in spades


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"And if they do, we already have an organization to deal with the situation: it's called the National Guard. "


who can tell us why this is a fail? 
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Cop or Soldier?
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2012, 08:45:23 AM »
Well, they don't usually come up against guys armed with RPGs. 99.999999% of the time they'll never come up against a threat truly dangerous enough to use even a lightly armored APC in the first place.  :facepalm:

And if they do, we already have an organization to deal with the situation: it's called the National Guard.


Actually there are lots of times that a lightly armored APC comes in real handy in a stand off situation.  They work great if you have to go in and rescue civilians and/or wounded out from the line of fire.
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