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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: dogmush on March 28, 2023, 01:22:43 PM
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What with all the mass shooting distractions I haven't noticed us talking about this on here yet.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/686
Text here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/686/text
I am in favor of shutting TikTok down, as I really do see it as actively and purposefully fomenting rot and violence in America. This act however seems like a much larger power grab to control communication on the internet and, if one were cynical, you might think Congress was using the current kerfluffle over TikTok to seize power they otherwise would not be allowed to grab.
As bad as TikTok, and social media in general, is, I think this bill may be worse.
Here's a TL:DR video about it (ironically on TikTok). https://twitter.com/SydneyLWatson/status/1640759955098681344?s=20
Anyone have opinions?
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It's the Patriot Act for the internet. They need to throw it away and try again.
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It's the Patriot Act for the internet. They need to throw it away and try again.
Most of them seem to consider the PATRIOT Act a success though, so that doesn't fill me with optimisim.
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Always read any proposed law with the worst possible intent, implementation and application you can imagine.
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Always read any proposed law with the worst possible intent, implementation and application you can imagine.
Yup, that right there.
I truly believe that tiktok is part of Chinese fifth generation warfare against us. In China, all the tiktok challenges for kids are things like, "Be the first to solve the calculus equation", or "post the most impressive science experiment".* In the US it's, "Who can eat the most tide pods."
I'm just not sure bans and censorship are the answer.
*Admittedly, one of the reason the Chinese tiktok challenges are all intellectual is because the CCP monitors things to make it so. Without that threat, they might be doing tide pode challenges there too.
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Yup, that right there.
I truly believe that tiktok is part of Chinese fifth generation warfare against us. In China, all the tiktok challenges for kids are things like, "Be the first to solve the calculus equation", or "post the most impressive science experiment".* In the US it's, "Who can eat the most tide pods."
I'm just not sure bans and censorship are the answer.
*Admittedly, one of the reason the Chinese tiktok challenges are all intellectual is because the CCP monitors things to make it so. Without that threat, they might be doing tide pode challenges there too.
To be fair Americans were doing crazy stupid stuff like eating Tide pods long before Tiktok or even the internet for that matter.
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To be fair Americans were doing crazy stupid stuff like eating Tide pods long before Tiktok or even the internet for that matter.
Perhaps, but I feel they cut their own dicks off less before social media's current ubiquity.
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Always read any proposed law with the worst possible intent, implementation and application you can imagine.
Quoted for truth and serving notice to plagiarize.
Terry, 230RN
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So much for the gov taking tik tok seriously, I guess:
https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2023/04/10/sooo-hes-not-banning-it-biden-to-hire-100s-of-tiktok-stars-to-indoctrinate-young-people/
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I see the bill doesn't name TikTok specifically. I wondered how they were going to get around the prohibition on Bills of Attainder.
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Got this back from Ron Johnson last week:
April 4, 2023
Dear ,
Thank you for contacting the Office of Senator Ron Johnson regarding S. 686, Restricting the Emergence of Security Threats that Risk Information and Communications Technology (RESTRICT) Act.
Senator Johnson has always believed members of Congress must read the fine print of any legislation before they endorse it, as the language of a bill might ultimately result in an unintended consequence that detracts from its advertised purpose. The RESTRICT Act highlights this point, notably because of valid concerns involving unilateral presidential authority to limit citizens free speech rights. There are legitimate, bipartisan criticisms of the current version of the RESTRICT Act, and Senator Johnson believes many of his colleagues may eventually reevaluate their initial support of it. The Senator has said he could support a simpler bill that would merely ban TikTok, or force its parent company, ByteDance Ltd. to sell the app to a U.S. company.
The RESTRICT Act has been referred to the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation – a committee of which the Senator is not a member. Should the full Senate considers this legislation, be assured the Senator will keep your comments in mind.
For more information regarding the Senator’s views on other issues, please visit his website at www.ronjohnson.senate.gov.
Thank you for contacting the Office of Senator Ron Johnson.
Sincerely,
Ron’s State Staff
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https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard/status/1645019136920293376
S.686 will make VPNs illegal?